Hockey Wilderness' 2009 NHL Trade Deadline Open Thread
by nathaneide on Mar 4, 2009 7:38 AM CST
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I hope you enjoy today as much as I do. Click on the button above to acces SB*Nation's NHL Trade Deadline hub. That page will have updates from across SB*Nation's NHL community. There will be articles there from each team's site covering the moves of the day.
We here are Hockey Wilderness will be posting moves as they happen in the comments section, so please feel free to drop by and let us know what you think of the various transactions, the impact those moves may have on the Wild, and of course, breaking news as it happens.
Now, as far as our beloved Minnesota Wild are concerned, general manager Doug Risebrough has said if the Wild do anything "it'll be minor".
After the jump, I've listed the Wild's potential commodities.
So, here are the guys we think will be on the block
All teams are in the market for a "puck-moving blueliner" and while the Wild aren't exactly overloaded with these types of guys, Bergeron is a UFA, and I can't see the team re-signing him in the offseason, making him a prime target for a team heading into the playoffs, even with his defensive liabilities. He's a good point man on the power play, and has little problem breaking out of his own zone.
Obviously this has been discussed ad nauseum here and across the Wild blogosphere, but news that Gaborik has completely healed from hip surgery, coupled with his seemingly inevitable divorce from Minnesota and the fact that he still is one of the best offensive players in the NHL make Gaborik an interesting factor at the deadline.
While the injury-bug and his repaired hips are clearly an issue, and have likely brought his trade value down to AIG stock levels, the fact remains that he is a juicy target for a team willing to take that risk to add his scoring punch to a Stanley Cup playoff run.
Johnsson, like Bergeron, is a solid puck-moving defenseman. While his offensive skills have been stymied in Jacques Lemaire's system, the fact remains that Johnsson can eat 25 minutes a night, handle the puck in his own end, and in Philadelphia he was a weapon in the offensive end.
Johnsson's price-tag is high at $5.2 this season, but unlike many others, he's under contract for next season as well at $5.3M. While this will hurt his value as a rental player, he may be a juicy target for a team looking past this season, and getting that contract off the books would help the Wild land some scoring punch and size on the blue-line for next year.
Owen Nolan leads the Wild in goals, and has proven that he's still a fantastic weapon down low, and on the power play. He thrives in the gritty atmosphere of a playoff-caliber game. Nolan too is under contract for next season, but at $2.75 is a bargain if he can get 22-25 goals a season and provide veteran leadership in the playoffs.
A team like San Jose, who just lost Mike Grier and Jeremy Roenick for four to six weeks would be a prime candidate for someone like Nolan. He can provide the grit and loves to play in traffic.
Everyone's favorite scapegoat is having his best year as a member of the Wild, and while Jacques Lemaire would hate to lose him, Skoula is a UFA and could be the kind of guy to provide depth on the blueline for a team in the playoffs. He's proven that he is durable, would cost virtually nothing for the rest of the season, and is playing a solid defensive game this year.
Veilleux is the type of energy guy that coaches absolutely love. He'll come out, give you everything he has for 15-18 minutes a night, irritate the other team, hit everything that moves, and even has some touch around the net if necessary.
With the ascension of Cal Clutterbuck to fan favorite and Veilleux's status as a UFA, he'll likely not be re-signed this offseason, making him appealing to a playoff team in need of some spark.
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Bouchard
PMB needs to go. The only way he’s effective is with a high level scorer attached to his hip. Flipping him for Jordan Staal makes too much sense.
Iksnay on the PMB-jay
Bouchard has a NTC for the first 2 yrs of his contract. I know that it was only a handshack NTC, but it is a highly public handshack agreement, and if we breack that agreement or word means absolutely nothing. you think it is hard for us to sign FA right now, how much harder would it be if every one believes we are liars as well.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
Pronger not going anywhere
Anaheim Ducks GM Bob Murray informed Chris Pronger and his agent Pat Morris his intention is not to move the all-star defenceman at the deadline, according to Sportsnet sources.
Well, I’m not necessarily surprised, but it would’ve been nice to get him out of the conference.
Is it just me, or does Pierre McGuire look terrible?
Maybe it’s just the weird angle, but he looks like he ate Darren Pang…
by Jon Marthaler on Mar 4, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
Dominic Moore
I don’t get the Dominic Moore love and why he’s considered one of the top targets. He has 4 goals and 10 assists and wants $2.5M/year? That’s ridiculous.
Fair trade both ways
Neither was of any use where they were, not sure what the big benefit is to their new squads, but a change of scenery never hurts I guess
The only way to avoid failure, is to learn from it.
TSN = Wonderful
Every time I watch TSN or HNiC (via the NHL Network), I end up fantasizing about a world in which the CBC and TSN are on TV.
Hell, we get Univision and Galavision – why not TSN and CBC?
Well
Because they don’t speak Spanish in Ottawa, so no public funding for CBC or TSN
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I'm confused
Univision is on TV here thanks to public funding?
by Jon Marthaler on Mar 4, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
I would have to guess...
Maybe not though. My guess is they have at least some.
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"Move" to Canada
StarChoice satellite coverage hits pretty much all of the continental US. With a few tools, a ladder, and a small sum of cash you can be up and running with Canadian TV.
I seriously consider doing this every time I have to watch the SD feed from Rogers Sportsnet on Center Ice.
From Puck Daddy
With Tomas Kaberle of the Toronto Maple Leafs injured last night and Kuba off the block, the pickin’s are getting slim for outstanding puck-moving defensemen. Does this mean someone overpays for J-Bouw?
Or… Johnsson?
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I am currently dancing an Irish jig.
Just for you.
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Welcome to the New NHL Trade Deadline Day....
… where everybody’s looking to dump salary and most teams would rather have draft picks or prospects than proven players.
by Jon Marthaler on Mar 4, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Why is NHL network showing On the Fly?
They couldn’t put something live on?
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That helps them a ton
the pick will be low… Nycholat they just plucked off waivers
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The price for defensemen
With all these defensemen going off the board, the value of Jay-Bo (and Bergeron/Johnsson) keeps going up.
Jay-bo stays put
I think the Panthers need the potential cash from the playoff series more than they want the prospects…
MAB or Johnsson… God if only.
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Johnsson
What are we asking now, then?
Same as for Leopold, or more?
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TSN
I’m loving TSN’s coverage. There’s so little going on, I think these guys are just yelling at each other to waste time.
Trying to replace what's his name?
My mind just blanked…
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Ovechkin hurt at practice
Guess they aren’t really trading him to us huh?
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He’s been “injured” so that may be part of it. Folks peed their pants over Poti getting held out of Caps practice and he had a groin injury.
Per ESPN:
The proposed move would send Flames C Matt Lombardi and first-round pick to the Coyotes for Jokinen
I don't like that move
Lombardi is a young talent
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I suppose
I have never been a part of a fan base looking for the help now… always planning for the future.
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I was held out of practice this AM too.
Maybe I’m on the move.
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Must be
One of those fancy “Puck moving” d-men, huh?
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Oh. That whole reading thing again...
Not a very good one, then?
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Very good move
They don’t need more scoring, and they just made an already good defensive team even tougher
Northwest division is done
McGuire thinks it’s a great move. Keith thinks it’s a lot to pay, but it’s a good deal for both clubs
Over. wrapped in a bow
Call the NHL… I don;t even want to watch them play the Wild again.
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So
Phoenix traded Ballard and stuff for Jokinen, then traded Jokinen for Lombardi and Prust and a 1st. So, Ballard for Lombardi, Prust and a 1st. Not bad for them.
How's that?
Because their GM understands how to load the cupboard? Because he can make deals? Because he has his team loaded and ready to attack for quite awhile?
All they need is a coach.
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I want to move today.
I’m calling a Realtor. Going to tell them… “I’m caught up in trade fever… trade my house!”
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Didn't know he was hurt.
I knew he sucked, but didn’t know he was hurt.
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Big Wild move
This just in, Doug Risebrough has traded his ham and swiss sandwich for a slice of pepperoni.
Jay-Bo
Word is the two top teams for him are Vancouver and Philly. Jesus I hope it’s not the Canucks.
'Nucks going to over pay
They are likely desperate now, with the moves Calgary made…
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Yikes
If Pittsburgh went along with that, I don’t even know what to say about Shero other than maybe, MAYBE, Mario threatened his life if he didn’t get Sid a playmate to play wing.
It would make them awfully offensive
And bringing Goli back up would only add to that. They’d still be really one-dimensional
Also
This would help distract people from bringing up the Ewing Theory and applying it to Sid. The team has done well lately with him out of the lineup.
Baby wants food...
Not a euphemism…
Back shortly. If the Wild do something, yell, REALLY LOUD.
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Short of the kid, this is the most fun I have had in weeks.
The only way to avoid failure, is to learn from it.
Word in Jay-Bo
sounds like Vancouver and Florida have agreed to Raymond and a first, but the Panthers want one more significant piece.
Gaborik
It still annoys me that Riser said they aren’t afraid to let UFAs walk. If that happens, and Gaborik performs next year up to expectations, look for Risebrough’s head rolling down West 7th
Thoughts on this?
What does Moore do for them? Does he take Kane’s spot? Does he play an offensive role, or does he fall to the checking role?
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I think
Moore’s a bit better than guys like Bolland and he’s a solid penalty killer. He’s better than what they’ve got on those third and fourth lines.
Guerin details
Guerin for a 5th round pick. If pens make playoffs it’s a 4th. It’s a 3rd if they win the first round.
Wild shopping Gaborik
From Russo
I am told by a very good source that Marian Gaborik is in play right now, meaning the Wild’s working the phones.
Wow
Guy on NHL live just called him GAW-borik.
Get a clue, can me?
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Ugh
If that’s the radio guy from NYC, he’s awful to listen to and couldn’t be less interested in what he’s doing.
Hmm
I’ve seen NHL Live on NHLN a few times and the guy that hosts it is freaking awful – its made worse since its just a simulcast of the XM Radio show.
Yeah, LeGreca is nothing special
I gave up my XM radio though, and I don’t get TSN or CBC, so I suffer through
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From EJ & Puck Daddy: [Derek] Morris and Ilya Bryzgalov going to Philly in exchange for Lupul, Upshall and Biron.
HAHAHAHA
“Ken Holland isn’t one of those GMs that lies.”
He and Babcock lie constantly to the press – they’re awesome at it.
One thing to remember
Last year, the Chris Simon trade came down almost exactly at 2:00.
What I’m saying: there are yet bad things to happen.
Interesting
Sportsnet says a deal is imminent for Bouwmeester… It’s very close now. Bieksa + Bouwmeester + 1st Rd pick
TSN has a whole video lead in
For Ryan Smyth….
Dear Lord, pulling out all the stops.
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A second round pick for Dominic Moore and he’s asking for more? WTF is Brian Burke smoking? Dude isn’t that good at all
Earlier today they were talking about #1s for Antropov or Moore
Even Burke said that getting a number 1 for either one wasn’t realistic.
by Jon Marthaler on Mar 4, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
And Sportsnet says...
Close to a deal that would send Jay-Bo to Vancouver….
by Jon Marthaler on Mar 4, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
TOR gets a second-rounder and a conditional pick.
by Jon Marthaler on Mar 4, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Funny
He gives the same answer at the deli when they tell him they’re out of cheddar.
“I really wanted cheddar though…”
I'm ready for the spin
The excuses for why they didn’t do anything, why they never do anything.
I am now mentally prepared, and I have the shit shovel ready.
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If the Wild miss the playoffs...
Then we won’t have to talk about this any more.
by Jon Marthaler on Mar 4, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
I need a billion dollars
I’m buying the Wild, and hiring the GM in Phoenix…
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Here's the epitome of Doug Risebrough
Wild allow Dominic Moore to be claimed off waivers for nothing & Brian Burke gets a 2nd round draft pick for him
There is talk about a late move sending Pahlsson to the Blackhawks, but I haven't heard any details.
From Russo:
Assistant GM Tom Lynn said the Wild was in a "major deal" up until this morning, and then it fell through.
Ah huh… sure you were. Heard it before. Don’t buy it.
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Couple other samll late deals
Kyle McLaren to Philly from SJ for a sixth
Eminger from Tampa to Florida for Welch and a 3rd
Columbus gets Lalnade from Calgary for a 4th.
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Somewhere, DR's head is exploding
A three way deal would be beyond his level of thinking.
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My head hurts...
All of this crap to sort through in the fantasy leagues… ugh. I’m too old for this.
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Ok
I’m going to be busy writing a blog post for my own blog on the NHL trade deadline and social media, so Buddha, do you want to write the analysis and rant on the impact of the trade deadline on the Wild and their inaction?
Trades still coming in
Kolzig, Heward, Rogers, and a 4thfrom Tampa to Toronto for Richard Petoit
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Edmonton adds
Alex Kotilik from Buffalo for a 2nd.
Must be another year’s second, or they owned another, since they already traded a 2nd to Toronto
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I need to learn to read
Edm send the pick to Buffalo for Kotilik
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