Wild Take Local Boy - No, Not That One
I am going to leave the determination of good pick or bad pick up to the readers, but we need to take a look at this pick, so here goes.
Chuck Fletcher went into the night with the 12th overall pick, and two plans. Make a move to help the team right now, or make a move to help the team tomorrow. When the Islanders traded up to sixteen, and then wanted to move up to twelve to make the only pick more confusing than the Wild's, Fletcher had his dance partner. He traded the number 12 to the Isles for the number 16, 77, and 182. So the Wild get a third round pick back to compensate for the stupid move last season by "he who shall no longer be monetioned."
As all of this was going down, it was noted several times that hoetown boy Jordan Schoeder was still on the board. When the pick was traded, the scenarios were played out, and it still looked like the Wild could land Schoeder, who finished as the fifth rated North American skater in the NHL's central scoting ranks.
When the Ducks picked at 15, and did not take Schoeder, it again looked like the obvious fan choice was ready to put on that road white Wild jersey (what's up with that, by the way?). As Fletcher started to walk up, it appeared that Columbus was ready to talk trade for the 26 pick, which would have garnered even more picks later in the draft. Fletcher wanted to pick and walked to the podium to announce:
Nick Leddy, defenseman, Eden Prarie High School.
Local boy, 5' 11", 178 pounds at the combine. Last year's Mr. Hockey, next year's Golden Gopher. Ranked 24th by Central Scouting. A player many believed to be a second round pick. A player that I, for one, never saw coming for the Wild.
As stated earlier, he played for Eden Prairie last season, winning a state title. He also played on the U-17 and U-18 elite teams. He passed on a chance to play US Development team so he could stay at home and play with his classmates.
Not trying to sell this pick as the greatest of all time, but thinking that given a few weeks, some of those that hate it will come around a bit. He is well spoken of, and is one of the best "puck moving" defensemen available. That is a linchpin in Fletcher's system, so we will see how it all shakes out. Personally, I am more upset Fletcher did not try to move down again, as Leddy would have been available lower.
It is what it is, as Brian Rolston would say. Not what I expected to happen, not what the old GM would have done, and not what the fans wanted. So, it's a little of the same mixed with a little of the new. Let's hope for our own sakes that Fletcher knows what he is doing.
Quotes about Leddy:
"He's such an explosive skater. It's pretty obvious he's a target of every opposing team because he's the engine that drives the train. Really, though, he's a world-class skater. "
- Jack Barzee, NHL Central Scouting
"Dynamic skater with outstanding stick skills and puckhandling ability can be a devastating offensive force. Extremely smooth and skilled with superb instincts for the game. Finesse, offensive defenseman small in stature, but has plenty of giddy-up in the tank. ... Smallish defender can be overpowered around corners and in front of the net, but competes well and uses body positioning to seal off opposing forwards."
- Red Line Report 2009 Draft Guide
"Leddy’s ability to change the game along with his tremendous hockey sense and puck skills will make him a highly sought after commodity come draft day. His quick vision and passing in his own end makes things happen every time he handles the puck. Offensively he creates opportunities for himself with his smart puck sense."
- International Scouting Services
"We've been trying to get him to shoot more because he's got such a great shot, but he's so unselfish with the puck and makes such good decisions -- he can really set up his teammates. He's grown into his body and he feeds off teams trying to take him out by matching that physicality. He's gotten good at initiating contact, so he hasn't allowed people to check him. He's getting to them first. . . . His game is made for the new kind of NHL, with the focus on skills, skating and ability to maneuver with the puck. I think the smaller defensemen in the NHL make it because of their skating, and that's Nick's best asset."
-Eden Prarie Head Coach, Lee Smith
A couple of links:
So Wild Fans, what say you? Worst pick of the draft thus far? Not as bad as it looks? Let us know how you feel.
-Buddha
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both are good picks, its whether we need help now or later
by IT DOESNT MATTER on Jun 27, 2009 12:13 AM CDT reply actions
Burnzie 2?
depends how he turns out. we’ll see. Schroeder better get ready to get leveled by Cannonball every time we see him.
I just don't know
My first reaction to our pick was “that’s not what this team needs!” I guess now I would rephrase that as “that’s not what this team needs today.” Maybe that’s not such a bad thing overall, because really how many players in the first round are NHL ready? Relief from picking up a power forward would only come 2+ years down the line, and that’s only if we didn’t make the stupid move of pushing the player in too early like this organization has a history of doing.
I also think the the “sure thing” cutoff ends pretty quickly — maybe even before the 8th pick. I took a quick run through a few names on our roster to look where they got drafted:
Owen Nolan 1st overall
Mikko Koivu 6th
Pierre-Marc Bouchard 8th
James Sheppard 9th
Martin Skoula 17th
Brent Burns 20th
Nick Schultz 33rd
Dan Fritsche 46th
Cal Clutterbuck 72nd
Eric Belanger 96th
Andrew Brunette 174th
Marek Zidlicky 176th
Antti Miettinen 224th
Skoula got picked up 17th and Zidlicky 176th? Neither has unblemished records, and while I think Skoula is a more solid D-man, Zidlicky put up 42 points this year.
In Skoula’s same draft year (1998), the Leafs picked up Nikolai Antropov with their 10th pick, and he wasn’t expected to go until at least the second round.
The more I look at any kind of historical draft numbers, outside of the top 10 the level of success in the NHL appears to be more about luck than anything else.
I guess we’ll just have to wait a couple years to find out if we made the right gamble.
Nope, still horrible
Is Martin St. Louis too small? Brian Gionta? Daniel Briere? No. And Thompson is a moron. He talks about how Leddy can generate offense, but he’s a freaking defenseman and schroeder is instant offense from a needed right-hand shot from center. And if it’s so much harder to find Leddy than Schroeder, why do we have so many puck moving defenseman in the system and nobody who can score?
Oh yeah, and by the way, Leddy was taken WAY too high.
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what makes things worse is that leddy is the same size as Schroeder, but plays on the blue line. He’ll never clear the slot.
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This just in
Minnesota Wild trade their third round selection to the Nashville Predators after losing Birkholz.
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Well maybe not
Wild take Matt Hackett from the Plymouth Whalers.
Goaltending? Really? Christ almighty.
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Good god Fletcher, what the hell are you doing?
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Wild should have cleaned house and sent Tommy Thompson and Chris Snow out the door with Risebrough, Lynn and Lemaire.
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I'm still bitter
Fletcher ****ed it up, and he better hope Schroeder blows a knee.
Quote: At 5’9/180, Schroeder isn’t the biggest freshman in stature, but he may be the most complete. Schroeder is a highly intelligent player that thinks and understands the game exceedingly well. He possesses excellent vision, awareness, and knows where plays will end up. He is instinctive and creative. Schroeder has the ability to make players around him better and his infectious enthusiasm and passion for the game is difficult to miss.
While some may feel that Schroeder’s lack of size could hinder his chances of being a top ten selection at the upcoming NHL Entry Draft, he has proven time and again that he is more than capable of competing against bigger and stronger players. Schroeder is remarkably strong on his skates and while he is still growing into his body, the strength that he now has he uses to great advantage. This can be seen in areas such as protecting the puck and his play along the boards. Schroeder has also demonstrated that he can handle the physically punishing aspects of the game as well.
Schroeder is an excellent skater with tremendous speed who is also very good in transition. He is versatile in that he can play both center and wing equally well. He is a superb playmaker with passing skills that are among the best in college hockey today. One aspect that sets him apart from many collegiate rookies is his great patience and poise with the puck.
Quote: More of a playmaker than a goal scorer, Schroeder danced around NCAA defenders all season, leading the Gophers with 32 assists along with his 13 goals. A true freshman, Schroeder has been twice selected to the US U20 World Junior team, leading the team this past year in Ottawa with 8 assists and 11 points through 6 games.
Quote: Some have been critical of Schroeder because of his size, but he would be a useful asset to any team in terms of his skill alone. Schroeder is a wizard with the puck, consistently findings ways to penetrate defenses with his deft stickhandling or speed. Schroeder does need to bulk up some to play professionally, but his skill level is already near-NHL caliber. Don’t be surprised to see Schroeder as a first or second-line center in the near future.
Quote: Jordan Schroeder has excelled with the Minnesota Golden Gophers as a star center. He possesses the skills do distribute the puck effectively every night. Jordan has a rare play-making ability similar to that of Daniel Briere. His passing is excellent but needs to shoot more often. He lacks NHL size, but makes up for it with deft skating and streamlined stick-handling. Look for Schroeder’s name to be called early in the first round this year in Montreal. He will likely be a top-flight talent in the NHL for years to come.
Quote: NHL Central Scouting’s Jack Barzee
"He’s a dynamic player, a leader and a type of player that has developed into a complete offensive and defensive threat every time he is on the ice. He has a rocket of a wrist shot and he can beat you by putting the puck in the net, going around a defender, or freezing the goaltender and passing it off to one of his wingers. The concern is going to be his overall size, like there was with Scott Gomez, with Brian Gionta and with Patrick Kane, but at the same age he is probably a little thicker and a little bit more compact than they were. He’s a great hockey player."
Quote: The biggest surprise among the upper-body strength measurements was University of Minnesota center Jordan Schroeder. Despite measuring in at 5-8.25 and 175 pounds, he did 17 repetitions of 150 pounds on the bench press, one fewer than the leaders — Saginaw right wing Jordan Szwarz, Erie center Ryan O’Reilly and Swedish forward Carl Klingberg. Schroeder also generated 351 pounds on the push-strength measure, one pound less than leader Carter Ashton of the Lethbridge Hurricanes.
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Wow
“that road white Wild jersey (what’s up with that, by the way?)”
They were in Montreal, they weren’t in the X. That’s why it was a white jersey.
And Nathan…wow dude. Give the guy a chance. If Schroeder is such a great player, how come more teams passed on him?
Don’t condemn picks before they even put the jersey on. So the Wild took a goalie. If they drafted a forward in that round, would you have expected him to score 35 goals in the NHL next season? Would you have called for Fletcher’s head if would-be-forward didn’t?
“He talks about how Leddy can generate offense, but he’s a freaking defenseman”
Yeah, defensemen never generate offense. There’s no one like Nicklas Lidstrom, or Mike Green, or Shea Weber, or Dan Boyle, or Sergei Gonchar…those guys don’t generate offense.
Show some patience.
I'm having an excessively difficult time showing patience
At least since they passed on a guy rated as highly as Schroeder, at a position of severe need.
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“They were in Montreal, they weren’t in the X. That’s why it was a white jersey.”
So why did we give Fletcher and Richards white jerseys at the press conferences at gate 1 at the X?
Road Jersey
None of the other squads used their roadys. Also gave Fletcher and Richards white jerseys at the X.
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