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Scott Gordon gets fired. Chris Botta criticizes that decision. The team pulls his credentials for doing so. Somewhere in there, the logic fails.

A bit of a warning up front on this one. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Minnesota Wild as a team or as a franchise. This is a Wild blog, and the majority of the conversation here will be about the Wild. However, when a story comes up about the ever changing world of the media that warrants comment, you can bet your house I am going to comment on it. This is one of those instances. If you are only here for Wild coverage, please check out the posts below. Thank you.

For those who are behind on the story, a quick recap. NHL and Islanders blogger Chris Botta of NHL Fanhouse on AOL, and his own blog at Islanders Point Blank, was recently told he would no longer be granted a media credential or the access it comes with. Puck Daddy did a piece on it earlier today, and Botta was on Fan660 in New York today to talk about the situation.

We only have Botta's side at the moment, but judging from the message that usually comes out of the NHL and its member franchises, whatever message comes out is likely to be sanitized and non-helpful. The only side we are going to get the full, honest story from is going to be Botta. If something changes, we'll let you know, but for now, we bring you the story with what we have.

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What we have heard from NHL franchises and the NHL is that bloggers who behave in a professional manner and have ties to legitimate news making organizations are more likely to be credentialed than not. The Wild have extended us an invitation to be part of their press corps, and we are grateful for that. The NHL and several of the teams credential more and more blogs every year. It is the way things are, and it is the way things will be. It is a story we have all read.

Chris Botta is the National NHL wirter for NHLFanhouse on AOL. It is a legitimate, news making organization. The Islanders blog, Islander Point Blank, that Botta writes was originally a creation supported financially by the Islanders themselves. To say now that it is an illegitimate source is disingenuous.

What does this tell us? It tells us that the Islanders are not concerned with the sites as much as the individual writing them and the message being delivered. There are situations where that is a logical function. If I write something stupid attacking the Wild or their players in a way that is completely unprofessional, they should pull my credentials. However, does that mean they should pull Nathan's and those for the site as a whole? Not a chance.

The fact is, the Islanders confirmed that when they told Botta that NHLFanHouse and IPB could continue to cover the team, as long as they sent someone other than Botta. It is a personal beef, not a professional one.

In a radio interview today, Botta said that he was critical of the team's GM Garth Snow about the firing of their head coach, Scott Gordon. So was 99.9% of the hockey world. It makes no sense to fire a coach for not winning when the team you have only meets the cap floor because you have a massive buyout on the cap. The team is so poorly put together by the GM, how is a coach to win with them?

A stupid contract given to a fragile goalie doesn't help matters either. The Islanders have struggled for years have many years of NHL dominance. They have stadium issues, and an owner than wants tax money for a new building. A team that has little to no media coverage with even less interest from the fans. It is a team in chaos. Who wouldn't be critical of this team?

To be certain, this is not a main-stream versus alt-media story on the face of things. It is, however, another MSM vs alt-media story underneath.If Katie Strang offered the same criticism, would she have her credential pulled? That is the burning question, and one I truly hope someone gets the chance to ask the Islanders. This smacks of censorship. Why? Because it is censorship. They didn't like what he wrote and said, despite the fact that he was not vulgar about anything.

They just plain didn't like it. Poor babies. Grow up a bit, will you, please? You run the biggest sideshow in the National Hockey League. Expecting there to be nothing but sunshine and rainbows suggests only that you have absolutely no idea what it is you are doing. Banning a blogger from covering the team only paints you in an even more negative light than you were in before.

According to Puck Daddy, the Professional Hockey Writers Association is involved, a fact confirmed by Botta today. This sums up the situation quite nicely:

The ensuing controversy speaks to the unique nature of Botta's relationship with the team; and, as the NHL and the Professional Hockey Writers Association get involved in the dispute, to the rights of the media when it offers less-than-flattering coverage of teams and executives.

Botta worked for the team. He left the team on good terms, and even wrote a blog funded by the team. That ended due to some criticism from Botta, and now he has been completely banned from covering them due to new criticism. It is childish and petty, and it is ridiculous that it is allowed to be this way.

He is, by all definitions, a journalist. Journalists have the right to write whatever they want. As long as it is presented in a professional manner, there is no reason to try to limit that right. Is it a first amendment issue? No. This is not the government telling him he cannot write what he wants to. This a professional issue. A business does not like what a reporter is saying about them, and so they ban that reporter.

This would never happen if Russo wrote something critical of the Wild, nor if he wrote something critical of the Islanders. It comes back to a personal matter, and it comes down to a newsprint versus LCD issue. The Islanders could never in a million years ban Stang from the arena. The story would be huge, and Newsday would likely sue over it.

Truth be told, the GM, Garth Snow, is upset that he was called out for running this team into the ground, and then blaming Gordon for doing so. It is a ridiculous show, a facade, to think that any coach could win with the team they are handed by Snow. The team is flat out terrible. When a team spends less than any other in the NHL and only avoids being penalized by the league by having a gargantuan buyout on the cap, it is the GM who is at fault, not the coach.

The wrong guy got fired, plain and simple, and Botta is feeling the wrath of a bitter man with no one left to blame.

The support for Botta has been fast and wide spread. No one understands this decision because it makes no sense. The mighty Bob McKenzie commented on Twitter:

It's ludicrous that a well-established hockey writer, and that's what Chris Botta now is, has had his credential pulled by NYI. Ludicrous.

 

If NYI think restricting Botta's access will decrease level of criticism, it will actually increase it exponentially league wide.Like now.

Indeed, sir. Indeed.

Russo has chimed in as well:

Never fails on Long Island. #nyislanders prove to be laughing stock off the ice, too. They yank credential of @ChrisBottaNHL. Embarrassing

Add a fourth ring to the circus, Mr. Snow. You are the Ring Master of this particular big top. Eliminating those who criticize you does not make the criticism less true, and it does not quiet the chorus. Your organization is a complete joke, sir, and you are the reason for that. Not Chris Botta.

It is unclear what happens next. The NHL has contacted the Islanders, as has the national PHWA. Neither organization can force the Islanders to do anything. Credentials are given at the will of the team, not the league, and there is no rights violation here. It is, however, tacky, petty, and childish.

It is beneath the behavior of a General Manager of a professional sports franchise to behave this way, and he needs to be berated by the media, both main stream and alternative, until he realizes his mistake or until the owner of the franchise cans the guy who deserved it in the first place.

Until that happens, I hope Mr. Botta will continue to do his job, and provide his readers with the information they need and want. He is one of the best in the business, and has led the charge on credentialing bloggers. To see him treated in this manner in infuriating. Having little power to affect change, however, I can only offer my support in the struggle.

Keep fighting, Mr. Botta. You are in the right, and the whole media world knows it.

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As if the Islanders weren’t already having trouble getting respect in the league, they go and pull a stunt like this. Fuck Botta for having his say right?

Great work as always B, and we’re proud of you and Nathan for representing HW in the Wild’s press corps.

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by JSLandry on Nov 18, 2010 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

As a Islander Fan

First, thanks for bringing this beyond the Island. The crazy thing is that Botta, and most Isles fans, have been supportive of Snow for sticking to a plan. We all know this team is losing 20 mil a year, and we need buy outs, injuries, and a not ready DP to stay at the floor. Add 11 in a row, its been a tough month.

The arena issue is more complicated than a tax thing. The arena sits on a large piece of undeveloped land in an area that doesn’t have much of that left. Every Islander owner has had ideas on developing it, and politics and NIBMYs have made it impossible.

by JC Frank on Nov 18, 2010 10:29 PM CST reply actions  

We've been talking about blogger's right for a while here, so this situation touched us.

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by JSLandry on Nov 18, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

While the Isles have a great amount of fault in this situation

because they have done little to establish or defend any positions through the media at this point, Botta has not been a saint. There are many that have questioned the tone of his writing, the difference between his private blog and his mainstream blog and his “censoring” of his own commenters when he is disagreed with. Check out some of the posts on LHH for further information. I actually questioned some of this a week ago before Gordon was even fired. Botta’s affiliation with the Isles was the VP of Media Relations….if you think that he doesn’t know how to spin and manipulate the media as well as the fanbase, that would be naive.

Again, there is limited defense for the Islanders because they have controlled most of the media around the team for some time now, but Botta is playing the martyr role very well, and he has many backers now because there really is very limited information to counter him with. He has many bloggers in tow because you guys are all struggling with access issues as well, but the research done by most appears to be limited as it pertains to this situation…most are taking Botta at his word and the Islanders fault here is that they are not doing anything to mitigate the perceptions that are being created.

There are several other factual errors in this story

and an owner than wants tax money for a new building.

The owner was willing to finance the building development privately. All he required was town of Hempstead approval for zoning. This was denied because in order for the facility to be economically viable, the owner basically wanted to build a mini city.
They didn’t like what he wrote and said, despite the fact that he was not vulgar about anything.

Does it have to be “vulgar” to be inappropriate?

Journalists have the right to write whatever they want.

That is rediculous….Are journalists allowed to write factless or baseless stories with no recourse? I’m not saying that is what happened here because again, the Islanders will not break silence on their side. But all journalists have a responsibility to the news, are entitled to their opinion, but should clearly define the two.

Truth be told, the GM, Garth Snow, is upset that he was called out for running this team into the ground, and then blaming Gordon for doing so.

Milbury and previous cheap ownership ran this team into the ground….even Botta would admit that. As at times misguided as Wang is, he has tried and made progress with digging this team out of its hole…the results are pending with youth. While the coach took the fall, Snow has never outright blamed him, Gordon is still in the organization as an advisor to Snow.

The bottom line is at times, Botta’s criticism and praise for Snow’s plan fluctuates based on his access. It is articles like these that fuel that fire and also the fact that the Islanders do not do the media responsible thing by getting out in front of their stories…seems to be a nice distraction from an 11 game losing streak though…how’s that for spin and PR?

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 18, 2010 10:39 PM CST reply actions  

haha not sure it's quite the distraction they wanted, but I guess it's a distraction nonetheless

While I agree that journalists and bloggers shouldn’t be allowed to write WHATEVER they want, bloggers are there to offer more of a fan’s perspective. Bloggers SHOULD be allowed to voice their displeasure in a correct manner. The Islanders dismissing a nationally estimed blogger like Chris Botta of what he needs to do his job properly is just wrong and can kind of be seen as media dictatorship: eliminate all who think differently.

Blogs are quickly becoming the favored outlet for a growing number of fans to get information, so if the NHL and it’s teams are serious about public relations and fan relations, they should give bloggers more access. I know it’s a bit touchy because of the more personal touch added in blogs, but still, fans have a right to know what’s going on with their favorite teams.

Again, I’m not saying bloggers can just post whatever they want, and I can’t say I know the entire story here either, but all I know is that bloggers have been unfairly handed the short end of the stick when it comes to media access.

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by JSLandry on Nov 18, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Does it have to be "vulgar" to be inappropriate?

Yes. Sure there are other things that are inappropriate, but when it comes to covering a team, there is very little that should result in credentials being pulled. Generally name calling and vulgarity would be about the only things that would qualify for me.

That is rediculous….Are journalists allowed to write factless or baseless stories with no recourse

With no recourse? No. But rights do not mean there is no recourse. I cannot yell “FIRE” in a crowded room without being arrested. However, a reporter has the right to write whatever they want yes. Should they choose to write factless stories, there should be recourse. The first amendment does give them to write whatever they want, however.

But all journalists have a responsibility to the news, are entitled to their opinion, but should clearly define the two.

You want to talk about naive? When was the last time an opinon writer was singled out as opinion compared to the facts only writing in the sports page? When Russo writes a gamer, is he not allowed to call a play stupid? Where does news end and opinion begin?

While the coach took the fall, Snow has never outright blamed him, Gordon is still in the organization as an advisor to Snow.

Hard to justify removing the guy if he wasn’t being blamed. As for the new role, I would suggest putting it in quotes. He is an “adviser” that will do very little advising.

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by BReynolds on Nov 19, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Here, read this

It has a bunch of links and quotes to help you navigate some of the history. http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2010/11/11/1807862/on-botta-jeckyll-hyde-or-genius

Don’t take on the potentially misguided stance that you are defending all news and the right to report it. This is not a Larry Flynt moment…this is a guy that engages in censorship on his blog when opinions are different but will often leave other obnoxious and borderline racist comments in. To now complain about being censored is a bit ironic . (Referring to Botta) Additionally, let it be known that people asking why he has had a sudden change in team tone had their comments (allegedly) deleted, but I did see a few, and after that, Botta issued a statement on the site that if that is the stance people are taking, maybe they should go elsewhere for their news…sound like any hockey club you might know of and how they respond to differences of opinion? (Pot=Kettle right?)

I would suggest putting it in quotes. He is an "adviser" that will do very little advising.

Why would he stay? Would you? Especially if it wasn’t exactly a role?

When was the last time an opinon writer was singled out as opinion compared to the facts only writing in the sports page?

The difference being that if you are using your “news” pass to get info and then using that info to write an “opinion” piece, that is a problem. I think there are blurred lines here because Botta is now one of the rare few that have a blog (IPB sponsored by SNY) AND a more mainstream media type position (AOL Fanhouse). I think in his case particularly, opinion and fact should be clarified if he expects that his credentials to be honored. Calling a stupid play is one thing, to state things like

And yet, for reasons I can assure you were not monumental or unforgivable but instead of paranoia, insecurity and a pathetic desire to control, the Islanders decided they didn’t want Jaffe around anymore and ripped up his agreed-to multi-year contract with MSG Network.
without citing sources (if he has them…it’s not like Jaffe has said this out loud)??? Again, much of this is in the lap of the Islanders…without an opposing viewpoint, you can’t call either one of the parties a liar.

Let me know what you think.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 19, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Let me be clear. I don’t care what Botta does on his blog. Well, I do, but not in regards to what comments he allows, and which he doesn’t. He should censor comments, and it is wrong to do so, but that is distracting form the topic at hand, which is that the Isles pulled a credential from someone who has passed all of the proverbial tests to be considered a “journalist.” To pull his creds because they do not agree with his message is ridiculous.

Why would Gordon stay? Because he hasn’t been fired. If he refuses to stay, he loses the money. Simple. He will have a desk, he’ll sit in meetings, he’ll get his token suggestion taken seriously, and for the length of his contract, or until the media is distracted by something else, he will suffer a fate worse than death. Working a job that means nothing.

As for opinion writers, the press box is filled with them on any given night here in Minnesota. They come in for a game, ask the questions they need to fit their opinion, and then present it as fact. It is tacky, yes, but they use their credential to do it. Same as anyone else up there. If I were asking questions, and ended up writing an opinion piece, I trust my readers to know the difference.

Not sure where the Jaffe thing came from, but he likely hasn’t said anything out loud because he 1. still has a contract with them, and 2 wants another job. Flipping out about it serves him no purpose.

I am not calling anyone a liar. I think the Isles will only give a sanitized answer and we will never know how they really feel about it.

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by BReynolds on Nov 19, 2010 1:25 AM CST up reply actions  

and also

I’m getting the sense that the blogger right thing is a hot button issue over here, so don’t get me wrong, I support that wholeheartedly. Our blog is where I go for most of our info because the team is so limited on what the do and the blog is far more informative funny and participatory. you guys do a tremendous amount for the fan and the sport and that is to be commended!

I just think this Botta/Snow/Islander thing runs a bit deeper and more personal (on all sides) than a typical “blogger rights” issue. I get that the credential thing is a last resort and that perhaps the team has not gone through the appropriate channels, butII also get the impression there is more behind this than we know about…and at this point I think both sides are playing in to that.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 19, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Blogger rights are a huge deal with me, yes. I agree that this runs deeper, but the optics on it are horrible for the Isles, and there is little justification for pulling a credential from a member of the PHWA. They need to own up and explain their side. Noting else is acceptable.

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by BReynolds on Nov 19, 2010 1:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed 100%

The longer they wait, the bigger the hole Botta is digging for them. The problem will probably be, that the are “just tired of his shit!” You have to admit it is a strange relationship there (employee→sponsored news→freelance news) and probably difficult for both sides to manage and keep in check because they were friends and invested in each other in the past…it may skew the objectivity on both sides.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 19, 2010 1:31 AM CST up reply actions  

It may look like it, but this isn't a blogger rights thing

In fact, the Isles (led by Botta) have been progressive when it comes to blogging. They started the “blog box” and gave a place for chosen bloggers to work with credentials. Recognizing that the team isn’t covered much in the NYC media, a month after Botta left the Isles the team came to him to sponsor his blog, which they did for a year. He was critical then as well.

This is an issue right now between Snow and Botta. Snow wants to control his message as much as possible, and that means not talking to Botta if Botta may spin it different. Botta, knowing that a lot of fans are getting Isles news first from him (especially since Newsday went behind a pay wall), is going to be honest why he doesn’t have quotes from the GM.

These two need to get at a table and figure it out, sort of like Burn Notice last night :-)

by JC Frank on Nov 19, 2010 8:41 AM CST reply actions  

Hey Guys, just to make a few points:

It’s not just this one event “Botta criticizing Gordon’s firing” that lead to his credentials being pulled. It’s been a long term thing between him and Garth Snow since Snow didn’t give him an interview last year at the trade deadline and Botta tweeted complaining about it.

Since then Botta has had a tendency to be critical of the Islanders even when his viewpoint has been proven wrong. One of the best examples is he claimed that the Islanders attempts to sign Paul Martin and Kovy this offseason were nothing but window dressing to placate the fans. Paul Martin’s agent said the opposite, that the Islanders offered Martin more money then he ended up signing for, and that Snow continually called the agent and even had Weight talk to Martin.

The revoking of his credentials did not stop him from still writing his blog. But the message he left for “Closing” the blog was cryptic (claiming it was out of his hands) and he used a registration only Islanders message board to give his side of things. Amazingly during his media tour yesterday he even admitted that he could still blog about the Islanders without the press credentials and not soon after he put a message on IPB saying he would be reopening it on Friday.

So this isn’t an issue where the Islanders went out to shut down a blog persay, I think it was more (from the Islanders standpoint) about pulling some of his legitimacy. Botta is still free to blog and will continue to blog without credentials about the Islanders.

I pointed it out yesterday to one of our commentators who thought if we were critical Wang would be out to shut us down. Over at Lighthouse Hockey the four main writers live no where near the Arena. So even if we did have credentials it really wouldn’t do us one lick of good since we can’t use them.

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by Mark D on Nov 19, 2010 12:03 PM CST reply actions  

I understand completely that he doesn’t need the credentials to write the blog. I have been blogging for five years about the Wild, and only was given full creds this season. I had game-by-game creds before that. The revoking of his credentials, and how it relates to blogger rights is that they would never have done the same thing if he was writing for Newsday or the New York Post, or any other newspaper. It is because of his status as “blogger” that they feel they can get away with it.

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by BReynolds on Nov 19, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

although just to point out, his credientials were for his SNY and AOL Fanhouse work, not for Islanders Point Blank

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by Mark D on Nov 19, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

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