Is the Blackhawks Logo Offensive?

I'll try to keep this quick, as it is a topic that has been beaten worse than a pinata in Mexico City on Cinco de Mayo. However, when a journalist throws something out into the world for mass consumption, they need to get the facts straight, and they need to be held accountable.
Last night, Damien Cox of the Toronto Star put out an article stating that the Blackhawks logo is offensive and should go the way of the Fighting Sioux and others in the NCAA. For the entire article, go here.
As Justin Bourne would say, more after the little star dividing line.
First things first. To Mr. Cox, please get your facts straight. You state this in your article:
Closer to home for the hockey folks, the issue produced a polarizing debate at the University of North Dakota over the use of "Fighting Sioux" that finally reached a conclusion last month when the state’s Supreme Court ordered the school to dump the nickname after years of squabbling.
The North Dakota State Supreme Court did no such thing. According to Chuck Haga of the Grand Forks Herald, a source a bit more familiar with the events unfolding in Grand Forks, the action was taken by the State Board of Higher Education, not the Supreme Court. From that article:
The hard-fought, four-year legal battle aroused great passions on both sides, and it was complicated by divisions within the tribes — divisions which logo opponents cited as evidence of the nickname’s negative impact on tribal life and, especially, Indian students at UND.
The wrangling came to a head in recent months as some logo supporters at Spirit Lake sought an injunction against the board dropping the nickname until arrangements could be made for a referendum or tribal council vote at Standing Rock Sioux Reservation.
A district court judge ruled against the logo supporters and threw out the injunction, and the state Supreme Court upheld the lower court’s action Thursday morning — issuing its opinion about the time the State Board assembled in Mayville for its monthly meeting.
The state Supreme Court simply ruled that the Board of Higher Education did not need to wait for the Standing Rock Sioux to hold their vote before they could eliminate the logo. They did not order the school, nor the Board to remove the logo.
This is of minor importance to the article, but it shows that Mr. Cox did not fact check his story very thoroughly, something the readers of Hockey Wilderness know I do not deal well with.
The best line in the whole piece may be this:
It’s as if nobody notices, or wants to. The same folks who never would have one of those disgraceful black jockey statues on their lawn will proudly wear a cartoon aboriginal face on their chests.
Because it's the same thing, right?
Mr. Cox goes on to write:
Clearly, no right-thinking person would name a team after an aboriginal figure these days any more than they would use Muslims or Africans or Chinese or any ethnic group to depict a specific sporting notion.
Agreed, they likely wouldn't. While we are on the topic, where is your rage against such logos as these:

Because we all know the stereotypes of the Irish being people who wear green, look like leprechauns, and love to fight at the drop of a hat.
Or this logo:

Saving the obvious jokes about the evil empire, the term "Yankees" was, and is, a derogatory term used by the South to refer to anyone from the North.
One for the Hometown crowd:

Because all Norse travelers and those of Scandinavian decent love to be stereotyped by the warrior class of their past. Historians have shown that Vikings didn't even wear horns on their helmets... thus an incorrect stereotype of the people.
So, I ask again, Mr. Cox. Where is your outrage over these logos? Or is it only, as you call them, aboriginal nicknames that are insulting?
Hockey fans, of course, being overwhelmingly male and white, hate these kinds of discussions. Political correctness, they howl, just like the debate over putting women in the Hall of Fame.
In other words, stereotyping is wrong, but using it to describe the fan base of hockey is perfectly fine. I am indeed a white male. I do not mind the discussion at all. Just so long as we all are clear on the facts of the debate, and that we all agree that you cannot separate the rage over "aboriginal" nicknames from those I pointed out above.
Finally, Mr. Cox closes with this:
Maybe the best result would be for the Hawks to win their first championship in 49 years, celebrate and then announce that while they’ll keep the name, they’ll change the logo.
Indeed. The logo is offensive, but not the nickname. That makes perfect sense.
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ok the issue itself has been discussed over and over so I’ll stick to points he made in the article. I agree he completely twisted/lied about the Sioux saga to make his point. He fails to mention that one tribe did approve the name and the other never voted against it. (And everything I’ve read says it would have passed, which is why the tribal council never brought it to a vote)
I will bring up one issue about changing the logo and keeping the name. The Iowa Hawkeyes have a Native American based name, but do not indicate that in their logo or mascot which is a bird. So it is possible to please the PC Police in that way.
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interesting sidenote
is that the other tribe was holding out for more. not that I blame them. The FSU Seminole tribes gets millions a year from that school for the naming and logos. All of this was pushed by the NCAA…which also did nothing about the Irish. More than a little hypocritical in my opinion.
You could include the Gaels, Trojans, Vikings and numerous others as profiting off of a people’s history. When did people become so damn sensitive? I swear the more PC everyone gets the worse they actually treat people.
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by TheEvilProfessor on May 28, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
and that
is where my biggest anger lies.. towards the NCAA. They pick on little schools like North Dakota who were basically forced into making the change because of the need for money from postseason evets held at the school, other local teams refusing to play them, and the conference they are trying to join refusing to admit them. Meanwhile a wealthy school like Florida State can throw around the money and make it happen. If the NCAA’s stance is that Native American nicknames are offensive then EVERY school should have to change or NO schools should have to change.
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and there
in lies the hypocrisy. the Seminols have a rich football tradition and that money from football outways all other considerations. but yes, all the other logo’s could be construted as offensive.
The fighting irish is especially offensive, more so then the blackhawks logo in my opinion as it plays to the drunken brawling stereotype that was used to justify the “irish need not apply” signs that were once prevelent in meny parts of the country. where as the blackhawks and vikings logo’s just show a strong stoic face.
the changing of the UND logo was largely pushed by white PC police much more so then by the local native american tribes. that is not to say that meny native americans did not find the logo offensive, just that the push came largely from external, non tribal forces for largely political reasons.
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by the Real Thor on May 29, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Well Done
I appreciate this article. Some people trip over themselves trying to be politically correct, and almost all of those people are just looking to attach themselves to an issue to make themselves look noble. I’ll always appreciate an article that exposes someone as hypocritical and pretentious as this.
True honor and decency
are spawned from intentions, not formalities. Being politically correct does not make you a decent person. Valuing other’s individuality and respecting other cultures and perspectives while staying true to your own allows for a more detailed level of cultural debate that strengthens our society and improves our solidarity as a nation.
For example, when did referring to someone who is mentally retarded as being retarded become less accurate? Is it my fault that a couple schmucks decided to use the word retarded in a derogatory manner change the meaning? No, but someone got hurt feelings and decided that Mentally handicapped was better sounding. And it will be until some starts using that in a derogatory manner.
Native Americans have an extremely proud and noble history. They should be proud. My wife is a UND alum and has never spoken ill of any of the tribes but is a diehard Sioux fan. How can being that type of fan of a team with a Native American image be negative and offensive? Teams don’t pick sissy or cowardly identifies for their teams. They pick fierce creatures, warriors or beings to be their totems. It is a sign of honor and respect, not shame or disrespect. I understand how some people could feel that way, but I have a hard time believing that was the intention of any of these institutions.
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by TheEvilProfessor on May 29, 2010 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
First off...
Mexico City doesn’t give a rats ass about Cinco De Mayo and 90% of mexicans in mexico don’t celebrate it. It’s a mexi-merican holiday and that’s it. Just thought I’d clear that up.
Secondly, the blackhawks sport the BEST SWEATER IN SPORTS.
Even as a kid watching my NorthStars at the old MetCenter, brawling with the guys from Chi-Town….I loved their jerseys. I used to draw the logo over and over on my class books. The Black white and Red with the indian head, nothing disrespectful in the slightest to be pulled from the Blackhawks logo.
The REDSKINS are the only sports team that I would consider offensive towards Native Americans. A team called the N****ers would never fly, and Redskin is the equivalent term.
All others, show a bit of their history. North Dakota was full of Sioux, and sometimes they fought. Big deal.
People need to get over themselves. I agree with the OP completely.
Just my .02
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This all is dumb
People seriously need to get over themselves
And is it just me, or is it only white people who feel the need to stick up for groups of people who are being slandered, if you can even call it that, by a team logo or name? If I saw on ESPN or something tomorrow morning the leader of some Native tribe talking about how they want the logo to change then thats one thing, but when some uppety white guy from Toronto talks about how the Blackhawks logo is offensive to Natives, its kind of hard to believe him. I mean, Im sure if he were of Native descent then he would be offended, but, frankly, who the hell is he to speak for an entire nation of people?
the real native issues
low man on the totem pole. on a totem pole the strongest animal is at the bottom . indian giver. if the indians took back territory , like what the mil lacs band gave up . a third of mn and a third of wisc would be gone . as to mascots being offensive this is the least of concern. in history books when the indians won a battle it was called a massacre, when in fact the whites where the ones doing the massacre more often than the indians. mascots are usually strong and prideful and to consider an indian in that manner is a good thing. political correctness is a crock. im an indian im not a native american im ojibwe.if the blackhawks mascot goes so does the cowboys, Yankees, vikings,nationals,and then we can have mascots like the clouds, the DC PC, glass, rock, cheer hard for your teams have fun being a fan leave the mumbo jumbo for capital hill in dc .
This is just nuts… trying to make a story out of anything they can..but go head and try to get the hawks to change the logo,good luck it’s one of the most known jersey’s in the NHL, loved for almost a hundred years buy local fan’s and vistors a like… lsay good luck, cause your go to need it.. this story isn’t going any where
"All 's well that ends in Hell"
Things like this make my blood boil.
I feel bad that people have time to worry about what might be deemed hurtful to someone else. I have said this before, I will say it again, Anything anyone says will offend someone else, It is best that we keep Our collective pie holes shut and not utter a word in fear that someone might get hurt. To that, I say Fuck it. not b/c I dont care about feelings, but because people need to grow thicker skin. people have to let small petty crap go. Stop worrying about A nickname. its all our heritage. If the Native Americans have a problem with the name, Which they didnt, then there should be no need to change the name.

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