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What Makes a "Good" Contract? Left Wing Edition

Everyone has seen it. You are having a debate, whether with your buddies, or within your online community when someone argues that "so-and-so's contract is ridiculous and is killing the team." You try desperately to argue on behalf of the player, the term, and the dollars of the deal, but to no avail. What then? Who decides if a contract is "good" or "bad?"

Fortunately, you have Hockey Wilderness to help you settle the debate, and as you know, we are never, ever wrong. We'll start with the forward ranks.

Make the jump, help us hash this out.

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All salary figures from CapGeek.com. (Where else?)


Andrew Brunette

#15 / Left Wing / Minnesota Wild

6-1

210

Aug 24, 1973


Cap Hit: $2.333 million

Years Remaining: 1 year.

Comparables: Alexandre Burrows: 67 points($2 million), Jussi Jokinen: 65 points ($1.7 million), Wojtek Wolski: 65 points ($3.8 million), Kristian Huselius 63 points ($4.75 million)

Good or Bad: Good contract. When HWSRN let Bruno walk and go to Colorado, it was because there were doubts about Brunette's ability to continue to put points on the board. Two years into the deal that brought Bruno back, and he's still doing just that. 61 points from cleaning up the garbage on the top line is pretty good. The $2.333 million is a fairly standard deal in the NHL these days, with seemingly more and more players signed to that all important three year, $7 million deal. I can't think of any reason why Bruno is not worth the money he makes, so we'll just leave it at that.


Guillaume Latendresse

#48 / Right Wing / Minnesota Wild

6-2

230

May 24, 1987


Cap Hit:$2.5 million

Years Remaining: 2

Comparables: It's difficult to judge who to compare him to. Do we compare him to guys who had the same number of points, or do we compare him to how many points he would have had with the Wild if here all season? For simplicity, we will use those who had equal number of points.

Paul Karyia: 43 points ($6 million), Jamie Benn: 41 points ($821.6K), Jason Blake: 41 points ($4 million)

Good or Bad: This is a very good contract. Even with the increase in pay, Lats is still affordable for his production. We have yet to see what he is capable of, and this contract makes him prove it. It ends one year short of UFA status, allowing for both sides to review in two years and decide if it was all a fluke, or if Lats is for real. Judging by the cap hits for the guys in front of him in the standings, $2.5 million is a steal.


Chuck Kobasew

#12 / Right Wing / Minnesota Wild

6-0

192

Apr 17, 1982


Cap Hit: $2.333 million

Years Remaining: 1

Comparables: Taking a different tactic with Kobasew, this past season was lost to injury. Using past performance, he is a 40 point guy. So, his comparables are the same Lats'.

Good or Bad: Right now, this contract looks horrible. 42 games, only 14 points. Kobasew was brought in to be a replacement for Bouchard, but ended up joining him in the press box. That said, his contract is the second of what we will find is many $2.333 million deals, and it's not a bad deal. If Kobasew could have stayed healthy, he likely would have found a place on the top two lines, which may have helped with points. A healthy Chuck Kobasew and this is a good contract. Injured, playing only 42 games, this one hurts.

 


Eric Nystrom

#0 / Left Wing / Minnesota Wild

6-1

193

Feb 14, 1983


Cap Hit: $1.4 million

Year Remaining: 3

Comparables: Milan Lucic: 20 points, 44 PIMs ($4.083 million), Travis Moen 19 points, 57 PIMs, $1.5 million, Ethan Moreau 18 points, 62 PIMs ($2 million)

Good or Bad: Good deal. Scott Reynolds at The Copper and Blue called this "a pretty bad deal." I'm not sure what he bases that on, since his comparables are fairly close, save for Lucic (who is grossly overpaid). Fourth line player aside, he is a hockey player. He is not a standard fourth line guy. He is tough, gritty, and can score. This is not a bad deal, this is a rather fair deal, which makes it a good deal.

Overall:

All in all, the Wild left wingers have decent contracts. No one is over paid, no one seemingly underpaid. We will see where it leads in the overall picture as we finish out the team, but right now, none of the left wingers are out of whack with salary.

The problem I see is that if Lats cannot turn into a pure goal scorer, the Wild have no finishers in this group, as we will find with the other groups as well. No one gets paid the big money, because the Wild don't have anyone who deserves the big money. Left wing is a source of strength in the NHL (with right handed shots playing left wing, they are also abundant). The Wild do not share in that strength.

What say you, Wilderness? What is your take on the contracts above? Fair? Good? Bad? Let us know in the comments.

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None of those contracts are bad at all. All of them are fair deals and don’t cripple the Wild’s cap now or in the near future.

by Call of the Wild on Jul 11, 2010 11:22 PM CDT reply actions  

The whips and chains are going to come out for the RW's

But I agree, I think our LW’s are paid what they are due. With Kobasew healthy, his numbers will definitely go up. He’ll be up in the high 30’s-low 40’s again, next season for sure.

I also don’t agree that Nystrom’s contract was a bad deal. Even though he’ll most likely end up on the 4th line, we have a 4th line that we can actually play on a regular basis now, assuming the center is not Sheppard. I think Nystrom will be a solid checker for us this year, and I wouldn’t be surprised if his points went up if he’s paired up with a guy like Wellman, or Almond.

by nemo1107 on Jul 12, 2010 12:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Definitely good

I agree that our LW contracts are all pretty good, and that Kobasew will be better. If Tenderness keeps up his pace from last year, he will be an absolute steal. I think our main problem, and I have no doubt this will be addressed later, is that we have way too many medium-big contracts. We haven’t Sather like contract issues, but we have way too many $3-4 Million dollar deals that last way too long (read: Schultz and Bouchard) Even if we managed to dump one the cap space gained is somewhat limited.

I agree that RW will be a little more troublesome simply due to Havlat and, to a lesser extent, Mittens, but I think that our D and G contracts is where the real problem is. Those $3-5M defensemen add up quick. We need more Zanon type players at Zanon type money.

I want to spin the wheel of justice!

by Schank on Jul 12, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Sorry I couldn't jump in! I guess we're even!

For the record, here’s what I would’ve written:

Bruno: Good contract, he’s been a fan favorite forever and he still gets the job done. He’s actually an adequate linemate for Koivu, they’ve been a good tag-team. Also, even if he does slow down, he’s got one year left, so he would be easy to trade to a contender, and I’m sure many teams will want him.

Lats: We needed him signed, he got signed. his contract in terms of money and length will be a great bargain if he keeps up his pace, and won’t hinder the Wild that much if he doesn’t. If he was able to score 16 goals a year with crap players on the 3rd-4th line in MTL, there’s no reason to believe he can’t score at least 30 with Havlat and Cullen. Great deal!

Kobasew: A lot of people are saying Kobasew sucked this year, which I think is unfair since he never played 100% healthy with the Wild. The fact of the matter is he’s a more than capable 3rd liner who can contribute 30-40 points at the very least in 82 games. He also showed great chemistry in his short time with Wellman. I have a feeling he can bounce back and he has more points per ice-time than Mittens has playing along side Mikko Koivu, so I think his contract is better than Mittens’ at the very least.

Nystrom: Let’s see: Last season, Derek Boogaard got 1.025 million to yet again not score and fight only 9 times… Think about that Scott Reynolds! I also thought his statement was ridiculous since the Oilers paid Patrick O’Sullivan 2.387 Million to score the exact same number of goals as Nystrom despite having better linemates (debatable) and about 5 more minutes of ice-time per game. So if we did overpay for Nystrom, it isn’t by much and honestly, overpaying for a complete 4th liner who can play different roles, can fight and doesn’t need friggin’ Hayley’s comet to show up to score goals beats overpaying for an underachieving 2nd liner by WAY too much.

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by BubbleWild48 on Jul 12, 2010 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice LW’s.

I think Kobasew is a perfect 3rd liner and at a reasonable price.

by Kingpin45 on Jul 12, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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