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Every summer, we at SBN like to expand our horizons and interact with some of the other members of our fine hockey community. Last year, after the Marian Gaborik move to the Rangers, we were paired with Blueshirt Banter. This year, we are lucky enough to draw the wonderful human beings at the juggernaut that is Pension Plan Puppets, home of the Toronto Maple Leafs fans and Dave Fuller's one-stop Google-replacer.

 

Without further ado, I'd like to introduce you all to our friends at Pension Plan Puppets! Thanks to my good friend PPP! Tell Chemmy he owes us!

  • For the uninitiated and monumentally lazy... what does the name of the blog mean?

The Ontario Teachers Pension Plan owns a large portion of Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment. They also own a couple of billion dollars worth of prime downtown property in Toronto. Toronto has not won the Stanley Cup since 1967. When they do the celebration will rival anything ever seen before and there may or may not be a massive amount of damage to prime downtown property. As a result, my buddy and I joked that the Pension Plan kept the Leafs good enough to give fans hope (not that we necessarily need a good team for that) but not so good that there would be a chance of winning the Cup and suffering an insane amount of property damage. Also, it's a knowing nod to Leafs fans about the popular but wrongheaded belief that Leafs fans are sheep and the cause of their own problems.

  • Your blog is clearly one of the most popular hockey blogs on SBN. What's the secret to your success?
  • I like to think it's mostly about how good Chemmy and I look great with Wendel Clark moustaches. More likely it's a combination of covering a team with an enormous fanbase, working hard to create a welcoming community, and having a platform that allows our great readers to share their own thoughts on the team.

    The other aspect is that we basically write to entertain a small core group that has been there since the beginning. We do our podcast mostly because we like to talk to each other about hockey and people seem to like it. I think all four things combine to make people not only want to read but to comment and write.

  • What is it like to deal with a Toronto media that is so obsessed with the game that basic fact checking seems to be an after thought?
  • It provides an insane amount of material. CoxBloc used to handle it but eventually became so dispirited. For me it means that there is always something to write about. The other thing is that it has created a group of fans that are fed up with the vast majority of the local media. They are looking for an alternative and we present a pretty varied option. If they are stat heads, we have that. If they are history buffs, we have that. If they are looking for humour, then...well, we make ourselves laugh.

  • Leafs fans always seem to find a way to stay optimistic about the future. Is that (still) the case?
  • Being a Leafs fan is funny because even the most optimistic among us is usually thinking about how things can go wrong. Years of having our hearts broken has created a fanbase that looks for the bright side in everything because we know that we will eventually be miserable so we might as well delay it as much as possible.

    • How do you handle cheering for a team with such a proud history during what is obviously a disappointing point in that history?

    I read a lot of 1967ers', our resident historian, posts. The bright side of the team's history is knowing that it's never been this bad and that it always gets better. This time period has grated on newer fans but the older ones (especially the ones that are actually old and not just 27) take things much more in stride.

  • What do Leafs fans generally think of Brian Burke and the job he's been doing?
  • I think that Leaf fans recognised that he was always going to be a controversial GM but we're realising the extent right now. He has definitely made a lot of good moves from seemingly solid draft picks to a lot of the infrastructure and organizational behaviour to some of his trades. Obviously, he's had some missteps as well that are well documented on the site and really everywhere in the hockey blogosphere.   Ultimately I think that he's still being given the doubt because we know just how terrible of a job John Ferguson Jr. did. However, because of some of the calculated gambles he's made there is definite pressure to perform this season. Burke has the Fire Ron Wilson card to play but he has been public about the fact that he considers all of the detritus cleared out and this is clearly his team.

  • Been a while since there has been a real captain on the team, how do you think Dion Phaneuf will do as captain?
  • I think that a lot will depend on his relationship with the veterans. If they are on board with him then I think that he will succeed. While much has been made by both Burke and Wilson about Phaneuf's bark I think that he is coming into a dressing room that is largely made up of players that are both younger and have less pedigree so the awe factor might work in his factor.   I agree that he needs to perhaps harness it but from what I've seen he never takes a shift off and had a noticeable effect on a number of players. They were effusive in their praise for him before he became captain so hopefully that gives it a bit more credence.

  • What do you think of the prospect of having a team in Hamilton or a second team in Toronto?
  • I'd love to be able to see the Leafs play more often. I actually signed up for season tickets when Balsillie made his ill-advised move. I don't think that it's as big of a slam dunk for success as people suggest. The city, as much as demographics are changing, is a Leafs town first and foremost. There is a massive fanbase in place and coverage of the team is pervasive. The economic impact would also be much less than people expect. My theory is that LeafsTV would leverage some of the new team's games and use that as a jumping off point for turning that into the equivalent of YES.   Also, the idea that it would be the silver bullet to 'make the Leafs try to win' is so stupid I won't even bother refuting it other than to say that if you believe that you probably think Damien Cox is a good writer.  

  • In your honest opinion, all homerism aside, will Toronto be a playoff team this year?
  • Last year I had to answer that on the record on the radio and said that it would depend 100% on goaltending. Nothing has changed. The Leafs' goaltending has torpedoed every season since the lockout. Thankfully, Old Eddie, Raycroft, and Toskala are just terrible memories. January 31st onwards Gustavsson and Giguere gave the team .913 save percentage which, for Leafs fans, might as well have been .999 it was such a change. Goaltending like that could help the Leafs get in the fight for the playoffs but it'll still be a stretch.

  • At HW, our... least popular player... let's leave it at that, is James Sheppard. Who is your James Sheppard over at PPP?
  • Oh man, it really depends. So many of them have been traded. Right now, illogically, people are zeroed in on hating Mikhail Grabovski which doesn't make a lick of sense. The guy drives play in the right direction, works hard, makes a salary more than commensurate with what he contributes, hate the Habs with every fibre of his being, and has the best hockey hair on the planet.

  • What are your honest to goodness thoughts about the Wild?
  • Boring. Sorry. I really enjoyed that run they had the year they came back on the Avs from 3-1 but outside of the playoffs I have to plead a lot of ignorance. I know that you guys have one of the most underrated players in the league in Mikko Koivu and that you've developed some good goalies. Oh and Brent Burns! But seriously, we don't get much Minnesota hockey here other than hearing how much you guys love your hockey which obviously endears you guys to me.   Oh and I do appreciate that Minnesota was pretty forward thinking in hiring Chris Snow. Also, sorry about Doug Risebrough. Didn't anyone in the front office follow hockey in 1992?

  • What type of restraint does it take to not punch Habs fans in the mouth?
  • Some might say it's divine but I like to think it's just a product of not being raised as a filthy Habs fan.

  • What does the coming year have in store for us from PPP?
  • Honestly, I don't know. Chemmy masterminded Throw the Snake for the playoffs last year and tells me that he has tonnes of amazing ideas for the next time the Leafs make it. Otherwise, we'll keep doing what we do, wouldn't be surprised if we added a few writers during the season, and hope that we get our first successful season during the blog's existence. It's been a pretty crazy growth considering how depressing the team has been.

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    Also, sorry about Doug Risebrough. Didn’t anyone in the front office follow hockey in 1992?

    Win. I mean, the whole internet. This is a huge win.

    Hockey Wilderness
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    by BReynolds on Aug 25, 2010 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

    I second that.

    It’s funny, the response he gave about the Burke question kind of reminds me about Fletch. While he’s clearly not an established GM like Burke yet, I think a lot of us are just relieved that He Who Shall Burn In Hell is gone, because he was… special… with a capital R.

    Oh and by the way PPP, I know you didn’t know this, but saying that guy’s name here at HW is blasphemy. You’ll need to go to the confessional to seek forgiveness.

    Great stuff, glad we drew you guys!

    (By the way, I’m JS, the francophone friend. I am a HUGE habs-hater!)

    JS, Champion of the first ever Hockey Wilderness Playoff Bracket Challenge! WHOOOOOOOO!

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    by JSLandry on Aug 25, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

    Hahaha, awesome, special with a Capital R.

    How did you feel about that Habs run last year then? Was that akin to torture for you or was it ok because they beat the Caps and Pens?

    I am no Habs lover, but I will admit to cheering for them over the Superstar Favorites.

    by JMarushin on Aug 25, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

    It felt like dying

    Especially with 95% of the fucking people all around me gloating about it…

    It felt like being stabbed with a Montreal Canadiens flag full of shit.
    It was the only time I was hoping Crosby would win
    It was like watching my children getting raped (I don’t have children, but you get the idea)

    So in short… the Habs run sucked.

    JS, Champion of the first ever Hockey Wilderness Playoff Bracket Challenge! WHOOOOOOOO!

    twitter: BubbleWild48

    by JSLandry on Aug 25, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

    You should have rioted

    At least get in on the action to release the rage, even if you’re rioting for a different reason than the rest of the folks in the city. ;-)

    by SpaethCo on Aug 26, 2010 3:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

    That sucks! I agree with SpaethCo, flip some cars and break some windows!

    by JMarushin on Aug 26, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

    Guess what I did after the special guy was fired...

    I posted a DR appreciation thread on the WMB. Didn’t turn out so well…

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    by danccchan on Aug 27, 2010 1:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

    One caveat

    The question about the Habs came from our Francophone friend JS. Send him your hate-mail (this means you, Ms. Veilleux)

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    by nathaneide on Aug 25, 2010 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

    Actually… that was me… no disrespect meant. I just know there is some hatred there. HA! Whoops.

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    by BReynolds on Aug 25, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

    Yeah, he beat me to it :)

    I’m in the same boat as leaf fans on this one. The reason I can’t just punch Habs fans out of rage is because I’m very severely out-numbered. Take about 85% of the total population of New-Brunswick. Those are Habs fans. Also, I’m ready to bet that there are less than 10 Wild fans in New-Brunswick. So… yeah… 1 vs 85% of New-Brunswick. Not a fair fight. But hey, I get to gloat about the Wild’s win against the Habs till the next regular season meeting in March! (Real close to when we play the Leafs! ;) )

    JS, Champion of the first ever Hockey Wilderness Playoff Bracket Challenge! WHOOOOOOOO!

    twitter: BubbleWild48

    by JSLandry on Aug 25, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

    Sweet!

    I’ve been reading PPP a lot lately, and I’m glad I got a bit of insight into the workings! Especially interesting about the name of the blog.

    by ADN on Aug 25, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

    Masterminded throw the snake?

    Whatever… ;)

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    by Travis Hair on Aug 25, 2010 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

    I have to give credit to the troops on the ground of course.

    Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
    Like reading thoughts confined to 140 characters? I'm on Twitter too.

    by PPP on Aug 25, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

    You could’ve taken credit for some of it if you told me that shipping a gross of rubber snakes to you was a good idea.

    Join me on the Hockey Blog Adventure! (or Twitter.) GO BRUINS! (and Wild!)

    by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 26, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

    Pretty sweet feature!!!!!!! I enjoyed it muchly =)

    by plopperrawr on Aug 25, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

    Awesome interview thingy, this is a cool feature, good luck to the Leafs and PPP!

    And I’d trade Shep for Mikhail Grabovski in an instant, lets get Burke and Fletch on the phones for that one :)

    by JMarushin on Aug 25, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

    Promise I will be sending questions soon! Glad you guys enjoyed it.

    Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
    Like reading thoughts confined to 140 characters? I'm on Twitter too.

    by PPP on Aug 25, 2010 11:29 PM CDT reply actions  

    What type of restraint does it take to not punch Habs fans in the mouth?

    A lot less restraint than it takes us (Leafs fans) not to punch a Sens fan in the mouth!!!

    If God didn't want me to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?

    by The Meatriarchy on Aug 26, 2010 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

    It’s a different sort of restraint when it comes to Sens fans…

    I always think one step ahead. Like a carpenter who specializes in building staircases.

    by Kenjamin on Aug 26, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

    yah, have to find one first.

    "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

    Albert Einstein

    by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 26, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

    Great interview

    i enjoyed reading this a lot. its pretty spot on – ive played hockey the majority of my life and its pretty clear the state of the team here right now. also, anyone who knows hockey realizes Doug R. ran the Wild into the ground. thanks, doug.

    for any wild talk/news check out http://mnwildfreak.blogspot.com/

    by MNTicketKingIntern on Aug 26, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

    Good

    You Hockey Wilderness people are good folk.

    Feel free to drop by at PPP, we are pretty welcoming of fans of other teams, as long as you don’t try and provoke us. (we even have a Sens fan who shows up that is actually insightful and reasonable.)

    "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

    Albert Einstein

    by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Aug 26, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

    Thanks!

    I’ve been lurking at PPP for a while too, and it’s a great crowd. May seem strange, but the Leafs are a rival team to me, but it’s a healthy rivalry. They’re my cousin’s favorite team and we always make playoffs on PS3 till morning. I wouldn’t really call them my second favorite team, but they’ve grown on me and things seems to be looking up for them and the Wild. I would love for both of them to make the playoffs so that my cousin and me can take the rivalry to the next level :)

    In short, I’m glad we drew PPP, it’s pretty much one of the best blogs on the internet, period.

    JS, Champion of the first ever Hockey Wilderness Playoff Bracket Challenge! WHOOOOOOOO!

    twitter: BubbleWild48

    by JSLandry on Aug 26, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

    We had a nice "road trip" last year with PPP

    I think we’ll do that again when the Wild and Leafs hook up. You guys there are fabulous.

    Proprietor of Hockey Wilderness - We take Minnesota hockey WAY too seriously.

    by nathaneide on Aug 26, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

    I really enjoy ppp with it’s huge fanbase. Even when it’s early morning in Toronto, there someone replying to my comment on ppp, making it feel like a live chat, which I always enjoy

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    by danccchan on Aug 27, 2010 1:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

    I'd say

    Our James Sheppard at the moment might be Jeff Finger. He’s not a terrible player, but he’s about 9th or so on the D depth chart, and eating $3.5 million per year.

    verbeauty!

    by A Lindros Jaw on Aug 28, 2010 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

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