Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: NFL Players Ready To Welcome Gay Teammate

Great Problems are Still Problems: Defense Getting Healthy

Nate Prosser will be looking back as Marco Scandella comes back. After that... what to do?

Sorry to ruin everyone's Crosbyday with Wild talk, but Russo reported today that Marco Scandella and Greg Zanon both practiced with the team today. It sounds like Scandella is a lock for Wednesday against the Predators, while Zanon could return, but no word on the likelihood of that. Eventually, Zanon will return as well, and the nearly forgotten Mike Lundin.

While having too many defensemen is a great problem to have, it still presents a problem. The depth of the organization on the blue line has been shown to be true, and now that depth must be reshuffled to make everyone fit back on the roster. Players capable of contributing to the NHL team will be in Houston, and players that have been a big part of the run to the top will be benched. 

The questions are - who stays and who goes? Who sits and who plays? What will the lines be?

After the jump, our very quick take on the situation.

Star-divide

Already, one player who contributed, Kris Fredheim has been returned to Houston, but now he at least has the reward of his shiny new NHL contract. That move was a no brainer. He was the last piece to be brought up, and the least likely piece to stick around. The rest of the moves will be much more complicated, with waivers and veteran status at play. 

With the return of Marco Scandella, another player will need to go to Houston. The most likely (almost certain) player to go back to Houston will be Nate Prosser. The kid has proven he belongs, and makes that first pass out of the zone, which is something the Wild desperately need right now. However, as Russo pointed out on Twitter, Prosser doesn't have to clear waivers, so hasta la vista. 

After that, it gets much, much more complicated. Say Greg Zanon is ready to go on Wednesday. Marek Zidlicky could go on IR to make room, but who comes out of the lineup? Maybe Clayton Stoner to give his finger time to heal properly? Stoner has played well, even injured, but he certainly can't be playing 100%. With the way the Wild are playing, does Zanon justify potentially messing up the on ice chemistry? Does he still fit with what the Wild are trying to do? Does Zanon have the ability to jump into the system and keep up? If not, does Zanon sit? 

Dangerous questions among Wild fans, I know, but they need to be asked, and they need to be answered. 

Finally, Mike Lundin is in the middle of done with his conditioning stint. He is back in St. Paul and more decisions need to be made. At some point, Mike Yeo has to decide if he is ready to sub out players like Justin Falk, who has been playing lights out hockey, and does not deserve in any way, shape, or form to be pulled from the lineup. 

All of this on top of Zidlicky hopefully being able to make a return at some point. 

You're the GM and the coach, Wilderness. You've got a great problem, but not an easy one to solve. Who goes where, and who plays? What are your lines? 

Comment 24 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Zanon

sits and waits for the next injury. Or is waived even. I luvs me some big Z just like many others, but we are number 1 in the NHL with who we have playing, we don’t need Zanon (or Zidlicky) right now. If it is Crosby coming back? Yeah, someone takes a chair. But Zanon? No need to throw our def. into a flux unless Stoner can’t go or they want time for the finger to heal up more.

Unashamed Alex Burrows Fanboy, MN Wild Lover, and believer in the FLA Cats Blueprint

by JMarushin on Nov 21, 2011 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

Zanon

I agree, I think he has been boxed out by the play of the younger defensemen. They all have more than one dimension to their play. If Scandella can go on Wednesday, then he plays. Also, if Lundin is available, he plays too and gives Stoner a chance to sit out a few more games and fully heal. Seeing as how the Wild have adopted a “defense-by-committee” approach to the blue line, Lundin won’t be required to eat up a ton of minutes and playing with a steady presence such as Schultz will help him get back into the flow.

Schultz-Lundin
Scandella-Prosser
Falk-Spurgeon

by Joel Bertelsen on Nov 21, 2011 4:00 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldn’t break up Prosser-Falk. The two played together in Houston and are paired together in Minnesota. They play very well together, and chemistry is something that can’t be taught.
In addition, Lundin isn’t a top-pair guy. He was a 3rd-paring blueliner in Tampa Bay, and outside of Hedman and Brewer, the blueline in Tampa isn’t anything to write home about. In addition, how does pairing Lundin with Schultz limit his minutes?
Schultz – Scandella
Falk – Prosser
Spurgeon – Lundin

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation

by JDesthubert on Nov 21, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Lundin

I was just saying that he won’t be playing 25 minutes a game a la Burns last year. He still will play probably around 21 or so, but the minutes are spread out much more evenly this year.

He was a top-4 guy last year in TB, plays a “mistake-free” game (Guy Boucher’s words), and averaged around 20 minutes a game last year. I agree on the Falk-Prosser combo, that was my bad.

Finally, I like Scandella and Spurgeon playing together. Scandella helps make up for Spurgeon’s lack of size and physicality.

by Joel Bertelsen on Nov 21, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m just not sold on pairing Spurgeon and Scandella together. I prefer to have a defensive guy paired with an offensive guy. Having Schultz paired with Scandella gives the top pair a puck-mover. It also allows Scandella more opportunity to jump into the play because he knows Schultz is going to be defensive first.
Same with pairing Lundin with Spurgeon. Lundin has some size and is responsible in his zone, giving Spurgeon a chance to join the rush as well.
I know I’m old school like that, but I don’t like pairing two defensive-first guys together while pairing to offensive guys together.

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation

by JDesthubert on Nov 21, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand, it’s just everything I’ve hear about Lundin is he is a good puck-mover and not very physical, a good positional defenseman. He won’t put up very many points, but he will make the first pass to get out of the zone fairly well. I can’t remember where I heard that, but I did somewhere.

Also, the only reason I guess I don’t like Scandella up on the first pairing is that would be two lefties who both normally play on the left side. Lundin is a lefty, but he is comfortable playing on the right side.

by Joel Bertelsen on Nov 21, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Prosser would have to go down to get Scandella back on the roster.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Editor:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Please consider donating to my Movember campaign. Together, we can change the face of men's health.

by BReynolds on Nov 21, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Or, I guess Zidlicky could go on IR… So yeah… never mind.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Editor:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Please consider donating to my Movember campaign. Together, we can change the face of men's health.

by BReynolds on Nov 21, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Trade?

I guess I’d rather see them try to trade Zanon before waving him. Not sure how much value is there – but better than nothing.

by VinMan____ on Nov 21, 2011 4:22 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Editor:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Please consider donating to my Movember campaign. Together, we can change the face of men's health.

by BReynolds on Nov 21, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I say let the incoming defensemen sit and wait for their turn.

Our rookies have played beyond any and all expectations. Why should they get the bench? Honestly, IMO, Prosser has played much better than Zanon had. Zanon only upside was that he was a walking bruise, capable of blocking shots. Sorry, but this team could use better right now.

Don’t mess with something that’s working. We weren’t in the top of the league in the beginning of the year, when these guys were playing. We are now. There’s a reason for that.

by Rhomy777 on Nov 21, 2011 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

Zidlicky to IR tomorrow.

Lundin a healthy scratch unless somebody else (Stoner?) needs a day off. However you pair them, Scandella, Schultz, Spurgeon, Falk, Prosser, Stoner are my main guys.

I’m not ready to bring Zanon back – he’s been out long enough a rehab stint is probably a good idea, for one thing – so we’ll deal with that bridge when we come to it. A lot depends on what Zidlicky’s prognosis is. If he looks to be back soon, I think trying to make a trade is a good idea, whether that’s letting Zanon move on or trading one of the young guys for a good forward.

by timprov on Nov 21, 2011 5:02 PM CST reply actions  

Personally, I don't see how trading or reassigning guys that have been your bread and butter solves anything...

Fletcher has made it clear this team needs to get younger. This is a very young defense, but they’ve stepped up to the challenge beautifully and have accomplished more than any other defensive core in the league. I mean, honestly, aside from the advantage of not having to clear waivers, how the heck do you justify sending down Nate Prosser (who contributes on offense and is blocking shots with Zanon-like skill and consistency) to get a guy like Zanon or Lundin (or Zidlicky for that matter, has anyone seen him yet?) into the lineup? These guys have paid their dues playing under Yeo last season and they know and can accomplish what he’s asking of them.

Maybe it’s time to start the transfusion of youth. We’re already seeing it in the forwards with guys like Gillies, Johnson, Bulmer and we’ve got Hackett, Endras and Kuemper chomping on the bit to get into the net. Brodin will likely make the jump next season and probably Granlund as well.

Prosser, Scandella, Spurgeon, Stoner and Falk have all proven they belong in a permanent roster spot in the Wild lineup. They’ve EARNED it, give it to them! Yes, success they’ve had without the veterans may not last, but I think it’s a sink or swim opporunity that’s definitely worth looking into. I say the Wild should look to move one or two of the veteran defensemen for some picks or prospects.

Proud Sioux Falls Stampede Season Ticket Holder and #1 Nate Prosser Fan! Go Wild!

by wild4life on Nov 21, 2011 5:46 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

dont know how much value they have, but i wouldnt mind seeing either of the Zs getting shipped

by Burnsie4mvp on Nov 21, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Zids is on the IR, so he’s not even using up a roster spot. And just for the record:
Prior to him going out, Zidlicky was still leading the Wild blueline in points. 6 points in 18 games is under his average, but he wasn’t totally irrelevant. If the PP could actually click, he would have been more noticeable. And yes, I along with everyone who’s ever actually watched him play knows he sucks at defense, but that’s not why he was signed.

Now, do you really believe the Wild can get anything for Zanon, who is coming off a groin injury at his age with his limited ability? At best, the Wild could get the same deal that they got for Nystrom, which were “future considerations”. Those considerations were cap space.
What team is going to give the Wild anything for Zidlicky? He has a concussion and a $4 million contact. There aren’t a whole lot of real contenders with the cap space and the necessity of Zidlicky. Plus, who’s going to trade for a guy on the IR after he’s been totally shut down from working out?

Russo said it best:

If the Wild keeps getting healthier though, Prosser is the guy that most likely will be the odd man out because he doesn’t require waivers to get to Houston. That’s just NHL reality folks, a rite of passage. Remember, there was a time when Justin Falk and Clayton Stoner were affected by the same thing. One day Prosser will require waivers to get to the minors and that’ll give him the edge on younger guys.

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation

by JDesthubert on Nov 21, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Zanon sits while Lundin plays while Stoner heals.

Then keep them both on the roster for the next injury. I’d love to see Prosser stick as well.

Schultz – Scandella
Falk – Prosser
Spurgeon – Stoner – Lundin

I don’t even care about Zidlicky.

by cgp711 on Nov 21, 2011 9:05 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry Zanon

We love you, but you have to go. There just isn’t room for you anymore.

2010-2011 Minnesota Wild Fantasy League Champion
President/CEO of the Tutu Many Slapshots fantasy hockey club

by Chris Winner on Nov 22, 2011 7:43 AM CST reply actions  

Zanon odd man out

Agree with the other posters. Zanon’s injury really did him in. Sucks, but that’s life in pro sports. So far, the young players have shown they belong. Rest Stoner till his finger heals completely. Zidlicky, as bad as he has been this season, can still prove useful. Besides, no one’s gonna take him and that ridiculous contract. Not to mention, he’s getting up there in age as well.

For now:
Schultz-Lundin
Spurgeon-Scandella
Prosser-Falk

When Stoner and Zidlicky are healthy enough to come back, some decisions (trades/waivers) will need to be made.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Nov 22, 2011 8:48 AM CST reply actions  

Don't trade away Stoner.

He’s done just as well as the young guys, and with a broken finger. Besides, you don’t want to trade away our depth, what if some guys get hurt again? I would keep him on the roster as a healthy scratch until he’s needed. Who knows? Maybe Lundin will actually end up sucking?

by Rhomy777 on Nov 22, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Thinking ahead a little farther.

Stoner is a UFA. Do you make the effort to extend him? If not, maybe he’s the odd man out among the young guys.

This strikes me as a tough question.

by timprov on Nov 22, 2011 9:50 AM CST reply actions  

I’d like to see Stoner get an extension. Nice to have a guy like him on the back end who plays solid and can drop the gloves if need be. Still won’t forget last Hockey Day Minnesota against the Blues when Stoner gave Backes the pounding of a lifetime.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Nov 22, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

Clay is my favorite player.

by RAU on Nov 22, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Your Minnesota Wild Blog Community

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Oh_kaption_my_kaption_small
State-O-D. How do our Defense-men look for next year?
Small
Jordan Staal?
Oh_kaption_my_kaption_small
Do the Wild have a shot at Parise or Nash?
Pumpkin_small
A Short 30 Team Analysis of Where Harding Could Go and Play as a #1 Goalie.
Logo-past-rochestermustangs_small
Shanahan and the Suspensions
Hawkwild_small
Former Minnesota Wild 2012 Stanley Cup Finals Dream Team
Small
Hardest thing to do in hockey?
Small
MN Wild's 2012 Draft Pick Watch #8:  AAAaghgahghgh!!!!!
Small
Hear me out...
Small
MN Wild's 2012 Draft Pick Watch #7: Who does #2 work for?

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Chuck Fletcher

Twitter_profile_small nathaneide

Mike Yeo

297235_228875923843877_197693266962143_697284_1857293148_n_small BReynolds

Darby Hendrickson, Daryl Sydor, Rick Wilson & Bob Mason

Mscon_bigger_small ms.conduct

Small bciskie

Granlund_small JDesthubert

N1282200019_30083840_3437_small elisebutler

Moose_stuff_small JSLandry

Avatar_small danccchan

Western-lg_small WCHBlog