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Weekly Wild Update: Week of 11-7-2011

Everybooooooody huuuuuurrrrrts.... sometimes.

What a difference a couple of weeks can make. The Wild are rolling, fans are happy, the coach is pleased but wants more, and the players seem to be buying in. There is a goalie battle, lines developing serious chemistry, and team defense about as good as can ever be expected. As far as the Wild are concerned, 7-3-3 is more than acceptable for a team learning a new system, and one many were ready to write off before the season ever started.

Now, things can change at the drop of a hat in the NHL. There are always surprises, but there are far more bright flames that fizzle out as the season grinds on. The Wild have been lucky with injuries, not claiming the top tier for too many games as of yet. Healthy teams are good teams.

The season has been a blast thus far, so let's continue on with it and take a look ahead at what the Wild did, and what they face next.

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Last Week

What we said last week was this:

None of the games will be easy, which should probably go without saying at this point. The Wings are going to be angry and in friendly confines, wanting to put a 10 spot up on the Wild as pay back. If it were me, I dress Kassian and hope to escape with Setoguchi in one piece after angering the poor baby boy with the bruised ego nose Todd Bertuzzi.

We all know what a Canucks game means, so there is little need to spend much time here. The Wild better bring the heat, or they will find themselves falling flat very quickly.

Well, Setoguchi is in one piece, Bertuzzi is still a joke, and the Wild not only brought the heat against the Canucks, they brought down the house.

Josh Harding continued his dominating play, pushing for what looks to be a lock on at least the A1 position. The top line had some luck, with Guillaume Latendresse nearly cementing his role on that line, and the second line found new life as Setoguchi, Matt Cullen, and Pierre-Marc Bouchard have clicked.

It was a good week, with a total of six out of six available points from three very tough opponents. What more can we say? Great week.

The Challenge Ahead

Four games, all on the road, all out west. This is what Wild fans like to call the "For the love of everything holy, just put the Wild in the Central and save us from this crap" week. Two games with 9:30PM starts, one with an 8:30 PM start, and one with a nice, normal 7PM start. There will be some bleary eyed fans at work in Minnesota this week.

Sigh.

To the games themselves, the Wild start in Calgary, a barn they struggled in for oh so long, but have found some recent success. The Flames are a terrible team, to be blunt. Terrible. The Wild need to steamroll through the Saddledome, and head to SoCal before the Flames know what hit them. As long as no one is looking past the Flames...

Then it's on to warm pastures, and a meet up with Burnzie. The first time Wild fans will have to face the hard truth that Brent Burns wears teal now come on Thursday. The Sharks have had a slow start, but the offense has not been the problem. They have weapons, oh so many weapons. The Wild will have their hands full with this game, and will need to bring the A game to get some points.

Next up are the LA Kings. If San Jose is off to a slow start, the Kings are mired in super glue mixed with molasses. That won't last, and Jonathan Quick is going to be a force to be reckoned with when the Wild hit town. He posted three shutouts in a week near the beginning of the season, and the Kings have everything they need to make opponents look silly. This should be a fun game to watch.

Finally, to close out the week, the Wild get the Ducks. The last matchup went... well, not so good for the Wild. Nothing has changed, except maybe who will start in net. None of the goals scored by the Ducks were on Backstrom though, so unless the Wild pull it together, a wide open net and an all alone Corey Perry don't mix well.

This road trip will say quite a bit about this team, and could determine if the X sees a few more fans when the home team returns on the 17th. String a few more wins together, the X could be rocking against the Avs. Lose out, and you'll see all of the fan momentum fall to the wayside.

Enjoy the week, Wilderness. Which game looks the best to you? Any bold predictions?

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And it’s really a five game road trip since they go to Columbus after California. I thought last week 7 out of 10 points but now I’m not so sure.

by cgp711 on Nov 7, 2011 11:55 AM CST reply actions  

SetoDUCHI?

Tell us how you really feel.

by Krotz the Wall on Nov 7, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

Did I really type that? Dammit.

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by BReynolds on Nov 7, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Fixed.

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by BReynolds on Nov 7, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Who's in net?

Backs and/or Harding will have his hands full.

by mg7505 on Nov 7, 2011 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

Against who? Backstrom starts tomorrow. After that, we’ll get a good look at what Yeo’s plan is. If he comes right back to Harding, you know what the thinking is.

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by BReynolds on Nov 7, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

If they go right back to Harding......

Let the trade rumors begin.

Trade Harding who is on fire? Or try and trade Backstrom with his monster salary and no trade clause?

I’m just hoping if they do eventually deceide to trade one, we get a lottery pick in the trade. A guy can hope, right?

by MinnesotaRage on Nov 7, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

If they trade Backstrom before the NTC is gone, he isn’t going to approve a trade to a bottom dweller. As good as Harding is, I’m not sure any team is willing to part with a top draft pick for him either. Realistically, I would guess maybe a prospect, or a mid grade NHLer. Maybe a puck mover in the NHL? Who knows.

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by BReynolds on Nov 7, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The only bottom-dwelling team that needs goaltending badly is Columbus, but they’re such a mess that Harding probably wouldn’t make a difference.
Like Bryan said, Backstrom gets to basically pick and choose who the Wild could trade him to this season.
About the only deal that would make sense would honestly be Backstrom to Tampa Bay, but would the Bolts be willing to give up enough to make the deal worth it? They would banking on another deep run, with serious Cup aspirations.
Maybe the Devils would be willing to shed cap space and take Harding, but who would they send back in return? We can’t base the trade just on the last four games. The Devils will look at his full history, as well as his recent injuries.
It’s a tough decision to make (if any decision is made). Mike Yeo is definitely happy to have a #1 and a #1A goalie, but Fletcher is going to have to make a difficult decision.

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by JDesthubert on Nov 7, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Tampa has the cap space either

So that will be a big block on any trade. Unless a Backstrom for Stamkos is in the cards…

by eamon17 on Nov 8, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Bold prediction

10 pt road trip with Seto and Heater each scoring a hat trick in one of the games. ( not necessarily the same game, but how awesome would it be if it was the San Jose game?)

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by Chris Winner on Nov 8, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

What's wrong with a tandem?

Why does it automatically have to go straight to trade rumors? A strong tandem in goal (See: Fernandez/Roloson) can allow us to play the hot hand and create competition game by game. Sure, the pay scale is a little off but the W’s are what matter. All due respect to Harding, he has earned every bit of respect garnered this year, but we can’t forget that we could have easily been 1-5-2 (still beat the Jackets) to start the season if Backs didn’t stand on his head at times while our offense/defense found their way. It will be interesting to see how Yeo handles this.

Prediction? I’ll say 8-9 of 10 is very possible, we might be catching the Kings at a good time and the Sharks can be beat as long as we play our game and actually score on the power play. The ever-hopeful fan in says we take 10 of 10, put a stranglehold on the division and never look back….. too much?

by iLoveHockey on Nov 8, 2011 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

I think most of us...

would be fine seeing both of them stay. But the fact that we could still use a few pieces, though things are getting better, and the fact that we seem to have a plethora of strong goaltending coming through the ranks does lend itself to speculation. Plus it is also something else to talk about.

by eamon17 on Nov 8, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

There’s nothing necessarily wrong with a tandem. Paying Backstrom $6 million to be in a timeshare is not the best way to spend money, but the cap space the Wild have allows for things like that.
I believe the reason that so many trade rumors are popping up is because the Wild seem to have a lot of depth at the goalie position. Backstrom is a proven #1, Harding is showing why he was drafted as the goalie of the future, Hackett had a great AHL playoff run and was the #1 goalie prospect in his draft class, Kuemper continues to play well, no matter what level he is at, and even Endras could find at least a backup role in the NHL. When there is this much depth at one particular position, naturally trade rumors start. The Wild don’t need four #1 goalies (as amazing as that would be), and getting good goaltending is still a premium in the NHL.
Considering there are still holes to patch up to make the Wild a legitimate Cup contender, the Wild do need to explore every avenue that could make the team better. The team could still use a top-tier puck-moving defensman, some 3rd line scoring, and still more depth on the blueline for the future. Yes, the Wild have done a great job of stockpiling talent, but the FO cannot become complacent with the current roster.
Meanwhile, Columbus is a total mess in net, Tampa Bay could use an actual franchise goalie instead of hoping Roloson will play until age 50, New Jersey needs to replace Brodeur, Winnipeg could use a real starter instead of two career backups, and injuries change everything.
I still argue that if Tampa Bay believes that Stamkos, Lecavalir, and St. Louis can get them back to the East Finals, then the Bolts may actually make a deal to bring in either Harding or Backstrom and pin their hopes on winning now. Roloson’s contract expires after this year, and Garon has one more year than that.
If the Devils can right their ship, they are also a team that could use a young goalie like Harding. Both Brodeur and Hedberg have expiring contracts and both are closing in on age 40 (Brodeur is 39, Hedberg is 38). With no true goalie of the future, the Devils might also be willing to play ball.
I think another factor that is now coming into play are the larger UFA deals that the top goalies are getting. Rinne and Bryzgalov got long-term, high-cash deals. Trading and getting an extension done is preferable to open bidding on the UFA market.

I believe that all of these factors, plus more, have given rise to the trade rumors.

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by JDesthubert on Nov 8, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to think it will be Harding that get's traded

IF he continues to play great, when the trade deadline comes he will have more value and less leverage. He is younger, and will be cheaper(more teams to trade him to).

As it is now, only about 10 teams could fit Backstrom in under the salary cap without major salary coming back to the Wild in the form of an NHL player. Contenders are usaully looking to add pieces, not trade them away so that makes this scenerio fairly unlikely in my opinion. Off those 10 that do have the cap room, the quasi contenders aren’t really having any goaltending problems. Lehtonen has been good for Dallas, Nashville just made Renne a $7 million dollar man, Colorado just traded the world for Varlymov. If Florida continues to win, they could be an option but they also have the best goaltending prospect in the league n Markstrom and he is basically ready. Everyone else that can afford him are not contenders.

Thus Harding and his small salary is the likely one to go.

by ThatGuy22 on Nov 8, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

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