Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Despite Relocation Drama, Coyotes Overcome Adversity

Airing of Grievances: Fesitvus 2011

It truly is.

Being that today is Festivus (for the rest of us), and part of that holiday involves the airing of grievances openly and free of bitterness, we present to you the first annual Hockey Wilderness Airing of Grievances. We have asked each of the Wilderness staff to contribute. Some have, some have not. Likely because they are just so happy with being allowed to be part of the Wilderness, they simply cannot stand to be upset about anything in life.

That must be it.

Each grievance will be given its due, and allowed to stand as the way each contributor feels. There shall be no judgement here. Well, yeah, there probably will be, but still. We hope you will join us in airing your grievances. Please try to keep them at least tangentially related to hockey.

Enjoy. Merry Festivus.

Star-divide

Airing of Grievances

Jesse - Biggest grievance - Shanaban. PMB gets his stick lifted into an opposing player's face and gets a 2-game suspension. Bogosian runs PMB from behind, gets a 5 minute major and game misconduct, but no suspension? Which play was more dangerous, Mr. Shanahan? High-stick penalties occur in plenty of games, and AT MAX get a 4-minute penalty for drawing blood. A dangerous hit from behind into the boards gets nothing?

Milan Lucic runs Ryan Miller in a dirty play, but nothing happens. I'm not going to buy that Lucic couldn't avoid contact with Miller. He instigated contact and got nothing.
I'm not seeing any type of consistency with the new "player safety".

Honorable Mention - The Winter Classic. Good to know the WC will be a private event between 8-10 East Coast teams. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh have both been in two Classics now. I'm guessing that Boston/Washington is on tap for next year, followed by Penguins/Rangers.

Ms. Conduct - Honestly don't have many grievances with the Wild because they did so many good things in the off-sea... Okay, eff this. I'll air my grievances, man.

1. Stop getting hurt! You're ruining it for the rest of us! (The rest of us being people who have to watch the Aeros play.)
2. Zidlicky is the exception. He is allowed to get hurt. Or traded. Whatever. Just go away.
3. Could the blond woman who's sat behind the Wild bench forever please look like you aren't there under duress? Are your cheeks broken? Are you afraid of smile lines? You're all Debbie Downer back there. Stop it.

Bryan - The list of grievances I have could fill an encyclopedia set. I'll limit it to my top five.

1. The stats argument. This needs to die. It likely won't. I am so sick and tired of being called ignorant, stupid, blind, idiotic, or any other word you care to insert. I don't care about them. At all. I understand them, still don't care about them, or the conclusions you draw from them. If you don't like that, stop visiting the site. No one told you to come here, we don't want you here, and you are welcome to leave anytime you wish. Side note: even if you leave, I will not stop mocking your position. I'm Minnesotan. We hold a grudge. Forever.

2. Marek Zidlicky & Brad Staubitz - The team was doing better without Zidlicky than with. This tells me there is a real problem. He does not seem to fit the system at all, and keeping him in the games is simply sending the wrong message. He pinches at all the wrong times, doesn't score, doesn't play solid defense, and the power play is terrible, his specialty. It makes no sense how he is in the games, and Greg Zanon isn't.

When Staubitz was brought in, and all through last year, we were supporters of his. We don't much care for fighting around here, but if you are paid to fight, you should at least be good at it. The opposition is so unimpressed with him, they run whoever they wish, knowing the consequences will be minimal. His defensive play is marginal, and he adds nothing to the offense. Yet there he is, every game.

3. The Winter Classic - It has become nothing more than another corporate gimmick, similar to the All-Star game. It isn't about the fans, it is about ratings and money. Someday, someone will look back at what used to be a very cool event and wonder why the league couldn't get it figured out before they destroyed it by making it about the biggest markets and not about what fans actually want to see.

4. Injuries - The number of man games the Wild lose year after year is appalling. Is there a solution? No. It is, by far, the most frustrating thing to watch as a fan. Losing is fine, but loses when the players in rehab could have made a difference are just brutal.

5. NHL Discipline - My feelings in this are clear, but the NHL's manner of handling its players is ridiculous. It is a massive conflict of interest, wrapped in pretty paper, and called suitable. Should not be one person making this decision. There should be a committee, and each vote should be recorded. No former players, team officials, season ticket holders, former employees, or any other connection should be allowed on the committee. It works in the court system, and it would work here.

Nathan - My grievance: neither Wild fans nor their detractors can understand the point the other is making. The Internet is filled with people who over react in the name of "making a name" and "click-bait". No, we are not saying we didn't participate, but frankly I'm bored with it all. We get it, you won't watch and understand or you like playing the asshole in saying that the team is boring. We refuse to listen to what you say because we think you're being obstinate and don't like the fact that you're ripping our squad or we're assholes. So, my grievance is that hockey discussion is getting annoying thanks to the over abundance of Internet chatter. Oh, and Sidney Crosby.

Your turn Wilderness - please air your grievances below. Again, please keep them related to hockey in some way. Merry Festivus.

Comment 23 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Pretty much covers it

1. Injuries
2. Zidlicky and Staubitz
3. NHL Department of Player “Safety”
4. $9.00 beers—at that price, my game day behavior is finally being altered and I’m not really happy about it (though, my wife is…)

Being from Minnesota, it would be rude to put something clever here.

by redheadzeb on Dec 23, 2011 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

They make flasks for a reason…

by ThatGuy22 on Dec 23, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Shhh...

my wife doesn’t know that ;)

Being from Minnesota, it would be rude to put something clever here.

by redheadzeb on Dec 23, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m crashing this and saying officiating, yearly rule changes, and the Wheel of Justice being back in working order – which are all really the same thing – seriously need work. These are my grievances. Or, at least, some.

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on Dec 23, 2011 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

You are always welcome, Cassie. I think you have more grievances, but thank you for keeping the list short.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Editor:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Dec 23, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Goalies not stopping pucks?

We have goalies to spare, got any top-six forwards we could use?

by eamon17 on Dec 23, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

My grievances

Haters, Shanacan’t, stats, injuries, Bryan (What a nerd) and my very weak liver. Seriously, I’m easier to get sick on alcohol than I am to get drunk. It sucks.

Happy holidays, merry Festivus.

P.S.: Bryan’s not really a grievance…all the time.

I'm that ''ignorant dumbass'' who writes with the ''whiny idiot homer'' over at Hockey Wilderness.

Twitter: BubbleWild48

by JSLandry on Dec 23, 2011 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

Yes I am. I’m an asshole. It’s fine. Also… if you are getting sick, you may have an allergy to alcohol. It’s an unfortunate condition, but something you may want to get confirmed or denied. That, or quit being a sissy.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Editor:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Dec 23, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

The condition never stopped me from drinking, mind you ;)

I usually continue to drink even after I’ve… expelled some.

I'm that ''ignorant dumbass'' who writes with the ''whiny idiot homer'' over at Hockey Wilderness.

Twitter: BubbleWild48

by JSLandry on Dec 23, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

One more grievance

Talking to a friend, he starting whining about Koviu again. People really need to stop bitching about the guy and his contract. If he wasn’t worth it, would the Wild be a total shell of their former selves without him?

0 wins while the guy has been out, and at least 2 of those games were winnable. He’s the heart, soul, and identity of the team. Think how bad this season would really be if he had signed somewhere else.

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation
Regressing all the way back to high school hockey.

by JDesthubert on Dec 23, 2011 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

This

Can’t believe people can’t see his importance to the team. Dude does EVERYTHING.

by eamon17 on Dec 23, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Every team in the NHL would have offered that deal for Koivu. Every. Single. Team.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Editor:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Dec 23, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

100% agree. Even Canadian broadcasters refer to him as the most underrated player in the league… and he’s not Canadian!!!

by Mike Murray Jr. on Dec 23, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

. Marek Zidlicky & Brad Staubitz – The team was doing better without Zidlicky than with. This tells me there is a real problem. He does not seem to fit the system at all, and keeping him in the games is simply sending the wrong message. He pinches at all the wrong times, doesn’t score, doesn’t play solid defense, and the power play is terrible, his specialty. It makes no sense how he is in the games, and Greg Zanon isn’t.

When Staubitz was brought in, and all through last year, we were supporters of his. We don’t much care for fighting around here, but if you are paid to fight, you should at least be good at it. The opposition is so unimpressed with him, they run whoever they wish, knowing the consequences will be minimal. His defensive play is marginal, and he adds nothing to the offense. Yet there he is, every game.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

by shleske on Dec 23, 2011 4:02 PM CST reply actions  

My Grievance Is Directed at a Dick

"You don't understand anything, man. Leave your STUPID comments in your POCKET!"

Read my lame Minnesota Wild blog at lemairestrap.wordpress.com

by Georgie Fruit on Dec 23, 2011 4:39 PM CST reply actions  

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

I actually fired up Season 2 last night. What a great episode.
“I’m giving you cancer with my mind.”

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation
Regressing all the way back to high school hockey.

by JDesthubert on Dec 23, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I will try to be brief... emphasis on TRY

6 games ago, my list of grievances would have been mostly oriented to the ineptitude of the NHL brass from Napolean on down to Shan-a-lamma-ding-dong. We continue to have the Phoenix annoyance (just feakin’ move them already), referees that are marginal on their good nights and downright brutal on the majority, a rulebook that apparently voids suspensions when a Wild player is targeted, and don’t forget the goalie pad debacle. I can’t acknowledge the athleticism of most current NHL goalies because they aren’t athletes anymore… they’re technicians with billboards strapped to their legs and body gear that would make the stay puffed marshmallow man feel svelte. Nope, not gonna be able to write about that because team performance of late makes other topics more pressing. (Good thing I’m keeping it brief, huh?!)

The team on the ice has looked gassed for the last several games. All teams experience it… it happens. They get a partial pass for the slump. That said, my grievances:
1. Zidlicky – Has never been a good fit on this team. He is supposed to be great in the offensive zone. Problem is he hasn’t done anything on offense and is a liability in the defensive zone. Plus, just bad juju. Is he bad in the room? No idea. Not all his fault though… see grievance #3.
2. Staubitz – The tough guy role is brutal. The story about Boogaard in the NY Times changed my view on it forever. Do that as you must. But, stupid penalties are stupid penalties. He continues to take them in all zones. Our D men can handle the nonsense Staubitz is supposed to tend to.
3. Yeo – He has had a tremendous season all told so I make these remarks with that caveat. LOVE his post game scrums. I was wrong at the onset when I criticized his hiring (Crow tastes like arse BTW). I do think he has fubared the defensemen with the forcing of Zidlicky into the line-up and other changes. 7 D-men saves gas, but it means continued play with different D partners. Yes, these are pros, but when they know their D partners extremely well they are tremendously more efficient on a break-out. Having to look versus simply knowing where the other guy is takes valuable time and leads to forced mistakes. And, get Zanon back in (credit to Zanon for handling scratches like pro that he is)!! He’s lost a step, but will stop at nothing to help the team and provides veteran leadership for the young D group… something I don’t think Zidlicky provides.

I’ll likely get crucified for the last one, but I think his recent goofs have contributed to the current slump. I trust he will get it figured out… I just hope its soon.

Wow, my poor wife… I’ve been ranting on this stuff for days and this is the abridged version. Yikes! Anyway, let’s get the ship righted… GO WILD!!!

by Mike Murray Jr. on Dec 23, 2011 4:59 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

You will not be Crucified for

talking shit about Zid, we ALL know he is terrible, and needs to leave, NOW!

by wild32384 on Dec 23, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

my grievances

1. FSN no longer plays the state of hockey guitar theme before the game.

2. Ricky rubio has not done the “let’s play hockey” in Spanish yet.

3. Maybe its just the 15 minute time of the morning I drive to work but the power trip morning show seems to be more likely to talk about pop music, food, television, comedians, and farting into a microphone (when they aren’t talking about the 2-12 Vikings) than they are to say more than a sentence of wild related anything.

4. Can we wear the green and yellow just once? How bout an alternate with the star above the third hump of a giant W?

5. winter classic… Any chance they could erect a 20k capacity temporary seating horseshoe around some little bay on minnetonka. Imagine a winter classic with ice houses in the background.

by gadecminor on Dec 23, 2011 9:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

There can't possibly be...

as many as 8 teams that will get a winter classic.

Detroit, Chicago, Washington, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Buffalo (and they’ll never get it again),

I guess maybe Minnesota makes 8.

by Justin J on Dec 23, 2011 10:16 PM CST reply actions  

New Jersey could also get a look, being so close to NYC.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Editor:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Dec 23, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot Boston

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation
Regressing all the way back to high school hockey.
Mikael Granlund = Suomi Savior

by JDesthubert on Dec 24, 2011 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Only two

Heatley hating: Around the league the guy is absolutely crushed and booed for two reasons. The tragic car accident that killed his best friend on the team. He has to live with that everyday of his life and some of the jokes that are made about it are absolutely disgusting. Especially to the family of the man killed. Just disgusting. If anyone feels he doesn’t think about it almost everyday of his life, I would have to disagree with you. It’s easy to be a tough guy over the internet. Go spit your hatred to his face sometime tough guys. Second reason he is booed, mainly by Canadian teams fans( what a shock), is that he requested a trade but didn’t want to go to Edmonton( again I don’t blame him). He was not the first athlete to do this, won’t be the last. The situation was made worse ten fold by all the nasty details being leaked to the media. There has been speculation it was done by the front office of Ottawa themselves. Many athletes have requested trades for a variety of reasons, their reasons are their own and not for people who could never even have a tiny concept of what its like to be a pro athlete to judge. I like his play. He shoots a lot. He scores timely goals, and seems to really be gelling with the team. I can’t and will not ask him to do anymore than that. I’ve watched every game this season and outside koivu, and brods, I can’t think of anyone on this team who night in night out produces more chances for the team. Would anyone take back the trade?

Second: Trade talk. Its still early in the season and I doubt any trades worth note are going to happen this early, while teams are still figuring out if they are even going to make the playoffs. Also, who is going to give us two cents for Zidlicky? Or Lats? Or any injury prone backup who’s contract is up? Lets be realistic people. That shit ain’t happening, and I would put money on it. The only way we are trading for any top six production, is if draft picks or prospects are involved. And I hope that doesn’t happen. We were so bare in the cupboards for sooo long and now we’ve got some future. Please god don’t let CF do anything stupid with them. Has anyone seen our previous drafts? We have some talent now and we should covet it.
There’s my rant. Go wild.

Don't know what I'm fighting for, but I know what I'm fighting against

by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Dec 24, 2011 5:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Your Minnesota Wild Blog Community

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Oh_kaption_my_kaption_small
State-O-D. How do our Defense-men look for next year?
Small
Jordan Staal?
Oh_kaption_my_kaption_small
Do the Wild have a shot at Parise or Nash?
Pumpkin_small
A Short 30 Team Analysis of Where Harding Could Go and Play as a #1 Goalie.
Logo-past-rochestermustangs_small
Shanahan and the Suspensions
Hawkwild_small
Former Minnesota Wild 2012 Stanley Cup Finals Dream Team
Small
Hardest thing to do in hockey?
Small
MN Wild's 2012 Draft Pick Watch #8:  AAAaghgahghgh!!!!!
Small
Hear me out...
Small
MN Wild's 2012 Draft Pick Watch #7: Who does #2 work for?

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Chuck Fletcher

Twitter_profile_small nathaneide

Mike Yeo

297235_228875923843877_197693266962143_697284_1857293148_n_small BReynolds

Darby Hendrickson, Daryl Sydor, Rick Wilson & Bob Mason

Mscon_bigger_small ms.conduct

Small bciskie

Granlund_small JDesthubert

N1282200019_30083840_3437_small elisebutler

Moose_stuff_small JSLandry

Avatar_small danccchan

Western-lg_small WCHBlog