Wild Talking Points: Scoring
Working down the list of things Wild fans and media are talking about, we come to scoring. This seems like an obvious problem, right? As football's John Madden would remind you, "The team with more goals at the end of this one will win the game. BOOM!"
The obvious is not always so obvious. While you always have to score more than the other team to win, that does not mean you have to beat them 6-2. Jacques Lemaire took three Wild squads to the playoffs, none of which was well known for blinding fans with flashing red lights. Thus the reason he isn't the coach here anymore.
Having discussed trading Brent Burns for a scorer, and having discussed Todd Richards' job security, let's take a look at the numbers, shall we?
Here it is. The entire history of the team's scoring for the past ten years. We listed the leading scorer for the Wild, with some years having two players listed to show if there were any secondary scoring threats. Notes for the chart: Lats scored 25 goals for the Wild last year, 27 goals total. Playoff teams are in bold.
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Year |
Leading Scorer |
Goals |
Rank |
Team Goals |
Team Rank |
Goals Against |
Rank |
Shots For |
Shot Against |
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2010-11 |
21 |
64 |
183 |
26 |
202 |
15 |
1944 |
2371 |
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2009-10 |
25 |
52 |
214 |
22 |
239 |
21 |
2266 |
2415 |
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27 |
43 |
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2008-09 |
25 |
69 |
214 |
22 |
197 |
2 |
2257 |
2518 |
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2007-08 |
42 |
7 |
220 |
18 |
210 |
9 |
2218 |
2469 |
|
|
31 |
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2006-07 |
Rolston |
31 |
34 |
225 |
19 |
184 |
1 |
2431 |
2361 |
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2005-06 |
Gaborik |
38 |
16 |
226 |
25 |
212 |
5 |
2194 |
2460 |
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Rolston |
34 |
23 |
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2003-04 |
Alexander Daigle |
20 |
79 |
188 |
26 |
183 |
5 |
1982 |
2383 |
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2002-03 |
Gaborik |
30 |
27 |
198 |
24 |
178 |
4 |
2086 |
2335 |
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2001-02 |
Gaborik |
30 |
29 |
195 |
25 |
238 |
24 |
1954 |
2297 |
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2000-01 |
Gaborik, Wes Walz, Darby Hendrikson |
18 |
168 |
30 |
210 |
12 |
2020 |
2307 |
|
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Total |
Total |
Total |
Total |
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2031 |
2053 |
21352 |
23916 |
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Goal Diff. |
22 |
Shots Diff. |
2564 |
What Does This Tell Us?
I'm sure if I were a writer for SBNation's Behind the Net, I could read all kinds of fun things into the above spreadsheet. Fortunately for all of you, I detest math so we won't get too in depth here. Without using chi squares, null hypotheses, or regressions toward the mean, we can still glean some interesting facts from the above information.
First, the Wild have only out shot opponents one time in their ten year history. One time. One. Let me say that again... ONE TIME. They have been out shot by 2564 shots on goal, and yet have made the playoffs three times. But all that talk about Wild goaltending being superb is hog wash, eh?
With all of these extra shots, the Wild have only given up 22 more goals than they have scored, or just over 2 goals per season. For most of Lemaire's tenure, the Wild actually outscored opponents. I know, sacrilege, right? The proof is right there in the chart, folks.
Next, look at the ranks. Only once have the Wild had a top ten scorer, only twice in the top twenty. The team has never finished in the top half of the league in goals for. Or, the "first division" as some would describe it. Under Lemaire, however, the Wild consistently finished in the top ten of keeping the puck out of their own net.
As the season sits right now, the Wild are on pace to have their third worst season for shots on goal, ranking near the original expansion teams. The easy money is that this will be at least a top five worst performance in that category.
It looks almost certain the leading goal scorer will have the fewest since Alexander Daigle. Not a comparison you want made. It doesn't always work out this way, but you hope for your top player in any given category to rank in the top thirty, right? Thirty teams, so it would make sense. Havlat sits at 64th in the league in goals scored. In other words, on average, there are two players on every NHL team with more goals than the Wild's top scorer.
Not good.
Yeah, but What Does it Mean?
What this means is that the high-tempo, offensively minded system isn't working. Whether that is the players, the coach, or the GM is open to debate. The numbers don't lie, though. The Wild have almost ten full years of stats to show that they are still missing the basic premise of hockey: shoot the puck.
Is a goal scorer what they need? Seems pretty obvious at this point. At the same time, they need to re-learn how to keep the puck out of their own net. Finding a scorer will help with one column, but it doesn't help with others. Trading away guys meant to keep the puck out to get guys to put the puck in may prove counter productive.
What the numbers above show you is that the Wild have more than just one problem, and the solution may not be as simple as one player. They need to shoot the puck more, rather than looking for that extra pass. Sometimes, even if it's not there, they just need to put it on net and hope. They also need to camp someone in front of the net to take advantage of the shots being taken. I know, I know... basic hockey again. Sorry.
The Wild need to focus on their own end a bit more. Giving up and average of more than 250 shots a year more than the competition is just not going to get the job done. The math is the same as the above paragraph, more shots equals more goals. Fewer shots, fewer goals. Simple.
Finally, yes, they need a goal scorer. Do they need a high flying young winger with a sniper's shot? Sure would be fun to watch, but not necessarily the only option. Goals can be scored down low as well. Ugly, gritty, nasty goals. Owen Nolan built a career out of the type of goals I am talking about. If it goes in the net, fans should be happy with it. It doesn't matter how it got there.
As we progress into the offseason, remember that the Wild's problems are complex. Hopefully we all know there is no simple solution to a complex problem. Defense, offense, and a focus on the basics. Seems simple, but it isn't.
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typo or freudian slip?
As the season sits right now, the Wild are on pace to have their third worst season for shits on goal, ranking near the original expansion teams. The easy money is that this will be at least a top five worst performance in that category.
Either way, I love it
by Hockeyfan_Miller on Mar 25, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions
HA!
Definite typo. Stupid spell check.
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The Wild certainly don't NEED a Gaborik.
I just wish they would be more agressive or mean I guess. I would love to see them knock more opposing forwards on their ass. Make them pay for coming into their zone. I watch our team & they almost seem afraid to hit. Let them know your there for christ sake. Stick work is great in the right spot but nothing stops a guy from scoring if he is on his keister. Two 30 goal scorers would be for more helpful than one 40 0r 50 goal scorer. That last thing I can say in this meandering comment is I have lost count how many times I have screamed at the tv to Shoot the Fucking Puck. Its almost become a catch phrase.
Blood and death are waiting like a raven in the sky
I was born to die
Hear me while I live
As I look into your eyes
None shall hear a lie
Power and dominion are taken by the will
By divine right hail and kill
Man-o-war
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I hate it when an errant key stroke closes your window...
losing all that carefully typed thought. Ack!!!
I don’t really care too much that the Wild have typically given up a lot of shots. For that good stretch this year, and almost all of Lemaire’s tenure, the Wild have given up a lot of shots from low percentage areas. This was because the Wild didn’t allow teams to get deep and into the slot with control of the puck. They didn’t give up a lot of quality scoring chances.
The team needs a better forecheck. When it is working, as it was earlier in the year, the Wild dictate the pace and flow of the game… they win. The problem is that the Wild are far too slow, collectively, to play an aggressive Pressure and Possession game like they want… like most all the successful teams do. The Wild spends far too much time chasing puck back into their D zone, especially on the PP, because they just can’t get to pucks, put pressure on opponents, and swarm the play. The team needs more speed
The Wild lack strong, quick, offensive threats in the form of the traditional power forward. With the exception of Lats, who shows that he can do it, the Wild don’t have anyone who can consistently get quickly to the front of the net, or steam roll his way there with the puck. That goal that Backes scored against the Wild in OT a couple weeks ago comes to mind. The team needs more fast and physical talent
The Wild have a lot of talented play makers. Koivu, Havlat, PMB… all have great offensive games. But, they are, or they see themselves, as guys who set up other guys. Clutterbuck and Lats are the team’s shooters, and Clutts just isn’t at top 6 level, now and maybe ever, in his ability to score. Now, PMB has one heck of a shot, and can hit some ridiculous spots. He is one guy that just needs to shoot the puck more. PMB needs to shoot the puck more
The Wild need an actual first line. The fact the Koivu has played with Mittens these past several years has been, well probably necessary some of the time, but hurting the overall scoring of this team. Bruno is a great complimentary guy, but he should be the 3rd guy out of 3 on a line. If Mittens could hit the net with his shots, he’d by a 25 to 35 goal scorer on this line. He just can’t do it. Bruno is great with possession and in front of the net, but he would work best if the other two guys in the line presented scoring threats from anywhere in the offensive zone… it takes Bruno a while to work his way into position. The Wild need a legitimate first line
The Wild needs at least one more primary scorer. I believe that Lats could be a 30 goal scorer. The Wild need someone who will push 35 goals every season. More than that though, the Wild need somebody with skill to have the mentality of a scorer… aggressively seeking the net, taking shots, getting in deep. The Wild need a talented goal scorer
by Krotz the Wall on Mar 25, 2011 11:56 AM CDT reply actions
That happened to you too!
It took me to long as it was, and rewriting it was to much work when most are expressing my thoughts.
"ooooh babe, when I pick up the phone, there's still nobody home"- Floyd
The Wild have some complex problems, that’s the understatement of the century, but for ten years! And ya wonder why we’re restless! I’ve been reading the posts and comments for a couple days now and all aspects of the Wilds demise have been brought to light with some glaring facts. I had a statement all prepared, but one stroke made it all disappear.
In short, we all know these guys want to win, and losing is unacceptable for anyone, pro athlete or common Joe playing broom ball. These articles have helped bring to light that it’s not just one player, or one coach, one game, or one year. Underachieving is an on going problem that appears we are going to have to deal with for many years to come. I still have faith that this organization will eventually get it all right.
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It is often said: Offense wins games, defense wins Championships
Of course, we don’t win enough games to get a shot at the Championship, so… yeah.
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Or have ever been nearly good
enough at defense either.
by Krotz the Wall on Mar 25, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It's leagues better than last year's defense though, so that's a plus.
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The good news keeps coming...
I guess it is better to get it out there in the open than pretend it doesn’t look so bleak…

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