Minnesotans Only Want Candy, Kisses, and More Minnesotans... Right?
You all know and love Mr. Tom Powers of the Saint Paul Pioneer Press. We have all read his "work" and been entertained by just how little about the fans here in Minnesota he knows. We often read his columns, out of boredom or because one our friends says "Did you see what Powers wrote today? Man that guy is a _____."
The question I often wonder with Mr. Powers is this: like many other sports writers in the area, he claims to be writing on behalf of the fans, but how many has he actually spoken to? The fans this, the fans that, this is what the fans think, the fans hate this, the fans love that. To this day, I don't think I have ever seen him quote a fan. You know, the people he supposedly knows so much about how they think.
There were over 5000 hockey fans in the Xcel Energy Center yesterday, and apparently, Mr. Powers knows exactly what each and everyone of them was thinking.
Make the jump. Let's have a little draft evaluation fun.
In his column in the JV paper today, Mr. Powers writes about how the Wild drafted Mario Lucia, trading up to do so, simply because he is from Minnesota. Never mind that at the #60 pick, he was an absolute steal on most draft boards. We here at Hockey Wilderness had him a late first, early second round pick. The Hockey news had him 22nd, not that they are experts by any means.
Looking at Mr. Powers' piece, we start where we should, at the beginning:
The Wild have disappointed their fans in recent years. But they are sorry. And to show it, they sent them the equivalent of a hockey Candygram on Saturday.
What's with this guy and candy? I mean seriously. Before, it was chocolates, now it's candy? If I buy you a Snicker bar, will you promise not to complain about what the Wild are doing to the fans anymore?
Want to send shivers through the State of Hockey? Draft a local kid. The Wild did just that by trading up into the second round to select Mario Lucia out of Wayzata High School. With luck, Lucia eventually will become a second-generation Darby Hendrickson.
Or, draft the best available player on the board, no matter where the heck the kid is from. Maybe we could start there? Chuck Fletcher traded up into the second round last year as well, giving up his third and fourth round picks to draft a kid from... wait for it... Las Vegas. Clearly Fletcher only did so to charge up the fans at Staples Center, right?
No offense to Darby, but does anyone really want the Wild's second round pick to become a guy who never cracks 30 points in the NHL? I hope not, because Lucia can't go back in time and score the first home goal in Wild history. I'm sure the Wild arranged that, though, too.
Especially after Chuck Fletcher's ill-advised trade of former first-round pick Nick Leddy to Chicago for the very forgettable Cam Barker. From Eden Prairie, Leddy could be a fixture on the Blackhawks' blue line for years.
So, are we mad at the trade because Leddy is from Minnesota, or because he is having success while Barker has become the biggest laughing stock in Minnesota since Martin Skoula? I know which one it is for me, and which one it is for every fan I have actually, you know, spoken to.
Although it will take a while for him to develop into an NHL-ready winger, Lucia already holds the title of Most Popular Player-in-Waiting. Fans will be clamoring for him as soon as he turns pro. Coach Mike Yeo, if he's still around then, will learn what Jacques Lemaire learned: It's tough to satisfy the fan base when it comes to a Minnesota kid.
Did the Wild trade Mikael Granlund? What about Jason Zucker? Brett Bulmer? Casey Wellman? Huh. Seems to me fans are more excited about a host of other players, rather than a kid who is headed to junior hockey before he heads to at least two years of college puck with Dean Blais, and then maybe makes the AHL squad before developing further and then, after years of hard work (Sorry Tom) maybe gets a shot at the NHL. Again, this could just be me spouting off, using the knowledge gained from actually speaking with the fans.
There is no question that there was a time when the Wild shied away from Minnesota players.
I'm sure Mr. Powers has multiple insider sources within the Wild's former regime to back up this statement right? I mean, otherwise they wouldn't have drafted AJ Thelen in the first round in 2004, or Erik Haula in 2009 (using the former regimes scouting reports), or Kyle Medvec in the fourth round in 2006, or Chris Hickey in the 7th in 2009, or Mike Erickson in the third round in 2002. Nope, I bet they drafted each of those guys just praying they never made the show.
They never signed Darby Hendrickon or Brian Bonin, either, right?
I bet they would have passed on guys like Zach Parise & Blake Wheeler if they had the chance, too. Damn Minnesota kids. Who needs 'em?
This has been pointed out endlessly, of course.
Indeed, by people who either don't get it, or don't care to do the research to see it isn't true. Oh... wait.
But instead of being overly critical, the home fans here are overly adoring. They want the local kid in uniform, even if he isn't quite ready. They want him on the power play. They want him leading the team in ice time. If he isn't, then the Wild aren't giving him a proper chance.
Indeed, since the top selling jersey in Minnesota is always one of the players listed above, right? I'm sure Thelen sweaters were flying off the shelf. Seems to me one of the most popular jerseys in team history is Derek Boogaard's, a kid from Regina, Saskatchewan. Last time I checked, that isn't in Minnesota. Marian Gaborik's also sold well. He's from Hibbing, right? That Mikko Koivu guy, he was stellar in the state tourny for Duluth East, right? Oh, and don't forget that crazy Iron Ranger Cal Clutterbuck.
And who did the Wild not give a chance to? Who from Minnesota did they draft and then not give them a chance? Please, I am begging you, inform the masses, because you stumped me. I don't see a list of Minnesota born or even Minnesota connected players that were brought in and never given the proper chance to succeed.
Meanwhile, the kid is pulled in 50 directions. Everybody wants a piece of him. He gets quoted daily in the papers and always seems to be on camera during the evening sportscasts. This often creates resentment among some of his teammates. He is in great demand off the ice, too, and has to be careful of overextending himself. All of the attention inevitably is disproportionate to his contribution to the team.
Even when a local player's ability begins to decline, the organization is terrified of trading him and facing a fan backlash. It's a long-term marriage for better or for worse. So everybody needs to know what they are in for at the start.
Seriously... who is this person? Have I missed something somewhere? Did I miss a player for the Wild being pulled around by his ear? Have I missed the local boy who overcame the hardships of not being wanted or given a chance and made the Wild despite their hatred of Minnesotans, only to get distracted by the constant demand for attention? Did the Wild face pressure from the fans not to trade away a Minnesotan?
Oh wait... I have a feeling this has something to do with baseball. Wrong sport, sir. The Wild play hockey.
Clearly this did not bother Fletcher, who insisted he wouldn't draft a Minnesotan just to draft a Minnesotan. But as Lucia fell deep into the second round, the temptation became too great. He traded two later-round picks to be able to select him, effectively blowing a kiss to the increasingly impatient fan base.
Here it is, where Mr. Powers really goes off track. Fletcher says he didn't draft the kid just because he is from Minnesota. But hey, Mr. Powers knows better than to take a man at his word. After all, after speaking with Brent Flahr, I get the impression he is a guy who doesn't really give a crap about the talent of a kid, but more where they are from. Oh wait... Flahr said exactly the opposite when we spoke to him last Monday.
Blow the fans a kiss? OK, someone needs some candy.
The next time the Wild got to pick, at No. 131, Fletcher took defenseman Nick Seeler out of Eden Prairie High School. That pick sent many of us scrambling through our packet of scouting reports. We didn't come up with much. Seeler was unranked by Central Scouting. No matter - he's another Minnesota kid. That's the pertinent stat. This got some of the locals in the Xcel stands so excited they had to pack themselves in ice to cool down.
Indeed, there were many in the building who knew who Seeler was and is. With a single question using that dastardly Twitter, I learned more than enough to know who he is. He played on the State High School Hockey Tournament Championship winning team. You know, the State Tourny? The most popular event in the state of Minnesota? He was teammates with Mr. Hockey, Kyle Rau. Do I know everything about the kid? No. I don't know everything about Jonas Brodin, do you Mr. Powers? I did, however, know enough about him to be informed. The only people who really matter in this equation knew enough about him to feel he warranted being selected in the fifth round of the NHL Entry Draft.
Mr. Powers then rambles on about a joke everyone on the press riser thought was funny... that Lucia might go to the Isles and Garth Snow, Lucia's dad's nemesis. You know when we gave up on the joke? About 15 seconds after we heard it. It was funny, and then we moved on.
The column ends with this:
He's sure he can handle it. I hope he gets the chance.
"I'll do whatever it takes to play in the NHL," he declared.
Being from Minnesota, he already has a bit of a head start.
Ah, so he has a head start simply because he is from Minnesota? Sounds to me like someone is blowing a kiss to increasingly impatient readership, Mr. Powers.
Final Thought
The fans who believe the Wild would be better if they had more Minnesota born players are mocked mercilessly by those people who think for themselves. It is fun, maybe kind of cool to have a Minnesota boy on the team. It doesn't make the team better just because they are from Minnesota. We aren't born with DNA that makes us better at hockey, and we don't give a rip where you are from. Put the puck in the net, keep it out of your own, and the Wild fans will love you. I promise.
We want the Stanley Cup paraded down Kellog Blvd, and we don't care what state or country you are from if you make that happen. Anyone who says otherwise, you are welcome to your opinion, but you shall not be taken seriously. Sorry Tom.
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The only real thing that the wild didn't do that kinda disappointed me
was that they didn’t draft Markus Granlund..we could have had our version of the Sedin Brothers haha
I’m guessing they tried to trade up, but couldn’t find the right deal. A high second round pick is worth more than a third & 4th. You know?
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Russo commented on that, through a discussion with the Wild...
They were concerned that Markus, who was indeed not rated as well, might not ever make it to the NHL, or could struggle to do so. The Wild didn’t want to take on any additional stress or the possibility that the older Granlund felt stuck in the middle.
by Krotz the Wall on Jun 27, 2011 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions
My thoughts
1st of all Tom Powers is clueless. Chuck Fletcher is a lot of things, but sentimental for Minnesotans isn’t one of them. You do not make it very long in the NHL by giving up draft picks for sentimental reasons.
2nd. I wasn’t exactly thrilled with the trade. I didn’t like seeing 2 picks go to the Canucks for Lucia. That being said, many people much more knowledgeable than me on Lucia have told me it was a great pick. Further, Chuck got some criticism last year for doing the same thing to grab some Jason Zucker kid who after 1 year in the WCHA has us all watering at the mouth to not only get him to the Wild, but away from beating our college teams.
3rd Chuck Fletcher has done amazing work the last two drafts, and heck even in his 1st draft, regardless of Leddy being moved. Fans should and are excited for that, not because Don’s kid got drafted.
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong...
but doesn’t he blast the current front office for drafting a Minnesotan. Then blast the past front office for not drafting Minnesotans. I bet he had this article written pre-draft, and left out which front office he was talking about, CF or HWSRN, at the beginning of each section. Then he could just fill it in depending on how the draft went… Lazy Bastard…
Also, of course people in MN, especially the casual “fan”, would like to see Minnesotans drafted by the Wild. Obviously if you knew someone, had heard of someone, or even watched them play in the state tourney, you would be rooting for them to get drafted by your team. Then they can say “I got to see them play 10 years ago in the MN state tourney. And I knew he was special”, or something along those lines. That does not mean that the real fans give a flying fuck where a guy is from. The issue is there are more casual “fans” than real fans. Anyone that is on this blog would not care, its an added bonus if they are good enough AND they are from MN. But anyone here, I assume, would not give a crap. And neither does Fletcher and his front office…. PERIOD…
This must have been Tom's time of the month.
He like almost all the local media are just clueless to hockey in general. I am scared to think what the hockey coverage would look like if Russo weren’t around. They would all rather spend countless hours talking about a basketball team that is absolutely terrible (which one am I talking about, Wolves? Gophers? both?) and a non-existent football season. If you have ever watched any of the local news channels, especially Shaver at KARE 11, he butchers everything related to hockey down to simple pronounciations of players’ names. The media coverage here is really attrocious.
I thought it was illegal to be this stupid.
He definately has his head stuck where the sun don’t shine. I personally don’t like the Lucia pick but Fletcher has done an outstanding job so far when it comes to drafting. I will certainly defer to his & his teams expertese.
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Tired of the Fucking idiots that post on Russo's Rants!!! Somebody put an end to MKIA & Technowild & The other losers.
by FightingWild on Jun 26, 2011 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't understand what you're criticizing?
I actually do think Lucia should lead the team in ice time, with prime power play chances.
Now hand me my chocolates.
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by Georgie Fruit on Jun 26, 2011 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Right? I’m such a dick. ;-)
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I think that if Fletch and Co. really wanted to draft a Minnesotan just for being from this state, it would have happened last year when the Minnesota stock was higher.
But, of course, knowing that information would have required Mr. P to actually look back one whole year at how the 2010 NHL draft panned out, the prospects involved, and the actual talent level that was around.
Access to the internet seems to be limited at the Pioneer Press. It happens far too often that things that are accessible are missed completely.
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Ahh Tom, you never cease to amaze me.
Great writeup, Bryan. You rip people a new one so well.
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Hack...
As always, especially when it comes to hockey, Powers is simply a hack columnist.
However, you do have to admit that there is a small and rather vocal group of Minnesotans that probably do hold to the descriptions and sentiments that Powers suggests. You see it often enough in the comment sections to Russo’s articles and others. I’m guessing that the extent of Powers’ fan “questioning” comes form glancing through those comment sections.
The article is asinine and insulting to most Wild fans and the Wild FO. It really isn’t worth the effort you put into this. :P
It really isn’t worth the effort you put into this.
A little hard work never killed anyone. Sorry Tom. ;-)
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by BReynolds on Jun 27, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting side note about Minnesota draftees
The Florida Panthers have taken the last two Mr. Hockey winners in Nick Bjugstad and Kyle Rau.
All I'll say is...
…if you want to follow a hockey team of Minnesotans, become a Gophers fan. Or watch “Miracle.”
First Round Bust: A Cast of Thousands celebrating a rather dodgy track record of Minnesota Wild Drafting.
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Not even the Gophers...
though they do always have a lot of Minnesotans. Really, if you want to watch MN kids play hockey, watch the High School tournament.
by Krotz the Wall on Jun 27, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Did anyone read his one about Brodin?
Some more brilliant work!
“He is a very small one at 172 pounds. A defenseman, he eventually will join a Minnesota Wild organization that is dominated by Finns. That means he should opt for a corner locker and an escort to the parking lot after practice. The Finns will jump him given half a chance.
Swedes are to Finns what Radical Islam is to Southern Baptist. And vice versa."
You earned your Ruesses’ Pieces, Tom!
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The Rest of it was dumb, too.
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by Georgie Fruit on Jun 28, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions

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