Toronto Reporter Calls Out Brian Burke for Visiting Troops
Today is July 1st in the United States. Just another day on the calendar for most. Some are headed out for a long weekend vacation, preparing to celebrated Independence Day on the 4th and relax as best they can. In Canada, it is Canada Day, a day when Canadians celebrate their own national holiday. For hockey fans on both sides of the border, it is better know as the start of free agency in the NHL.
Everyone who cares about the NHL tunes into TSN or the NHL Network in order to get the latest on who is signing where, watching and hoping for their team to improve. The one thing this one day a year also provides is a glimpse inside the hockey-centric, seemly terrifying obsession of some north of the border with what is, at its base, a game.
Never has it been more clear just how badly some in the media north of the border need some perspective than today when Toronto Sun reporter Steve Simmons called Maples Leafs GM Brian Burke to the mat for not being in town for the first day of free agency. Where was Brian Burke? Kandahar, Afghanistan, visiting troops fighting to defend the rights for Mr. Simmons to be the pompous, self-absorbed buffoon he chooses to be.
Watch the video, then make the jump for my take on the comments.
Let's be clear on something. We all understand what Simmons was trying to say. It is important for the General Manager of an NHL franchise to be available to woo attractive free agents. The players deserve the attention of the man signing the paychecks, and the benefit of a conversation with the man in charge. Still, there are some people in this world who deserve that attention, and that conversation even more than millionaire players.
The troops.
It is Canada Day. More so than it is the start of free agency, it is national holiday in Canada. A Day when the people of the nation get to be proud of their nation and to celebrate simply being Canadian. Imagine someone criticizing an American GM for being in Afghanistan on July 4th, even if it were the day they could sign free agents. Not going to happen.
Brian Burke did something many of us can only dream of being important enough to do. He took time out of his day, a very important day in his job, to visit those doing a job far from home and that Mr. Simmons is clearly unqualified to do. Burke made a sacrifice to go see the troops, to say thank you, to make it clear that nothing is more important than them. Not even free agency.
As someone who spends a fair amount of his life trying to find ways to help and honor the troops protecting my rights, I find Mr. Simmons' comments to be offensive to my core. I believe that if I were Burke, I would make it very clear to the Sun family of newspapers that none of their reporters would be covering the Toronto Maple Leafs this season. Further, I would be on every radio and TV outlet, including TSN, speaking about the experience of being in Afghanistan and what it meant to those troops to be there.
I wouldn't stop talking about it until Mr. Simmons begged to be allowed back in the building, and then I would make it a requirement for him to spend a month embedded in a Canadian front line unit, covering just what it means to be a soldier in the middle of a war zone.
Yes, Mr. Simmons, there are more important things in life than hockey. There are more important things in life that billionaire owners, millionaire players, and so very many things more important than wooing Brad Richards.
This is not to mention that just because Brian Burke isn't at his desk, or isn't sitting in front of Richards helping him make his LeBron James-esque decision, doe snot mean that Burke cannot speak to Richards, or any other free agent. We have amazing technology these days, and are able to have conversations of all types with people in the most remote of areas. Yes, Mr. Simmons, Brian Burke could still run an NHL franchise, and woo the prime free agent in the weakest class in recent memory and attempt to over pay him for his limited skill set, all from the friendly confines of an Army camp in a war zone.
The point is, Mr. Simmons, that the "optics" were perfect for anyone who isn't a self-focused jackass. The GM of one of the most prestigious NHL franchises in history took the day free agency started, made a major sacrifice, and did the right thing.
Maybe you could try that, Mr. Simmons. Until you get on a plane and spend some time in the hell those troops are living, until you leave your family behind and spend time in 100+ degree heat fighting in a country full of people who hate you simply for being alive, all in the name of protecting the right of pig-headed morons to shove their foot in their mouths... until you do that, I would prefer you shut your yap and simply say...
Thank you.
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What an asshole.
MR Burke I salute you.
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fighting in a country full of people who hate you simply for being alive
As a 1st-generation American of Iranian descent, I have to say that the “anti-American” sentiment that people think us Middle Easterners have is really overplayed. I for one, know that not everyone in Iran hates the United States, and it’s assumedly the same in Afghanistan. So please don’t paint us all with the same brush.
Other than that, I agree wholeheartedly with your post and think that Simmons should show a little more appreciation for the troops.
I'm the type of person who edits his signature every 5 seconds.
It was not intended to paint everyone with the same brush. I find it difficult to believe Afghanistan is not full of people who hate the soldiers. Sorry. I know there are many who do not hate them, and in fact love them. However, I watch enough of the news, and talk to enough soldiers to know there are just as many that hate them.
It was not meant as a broad brush comment, and I am sorry you took it to be such.
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First, I applaud Burke for his decision to visit real heroes during the upcoming holiday. It’s good for the troops to know firsthand that their sacrifices are appreciated.
Second, and I may not be a total expert, but I feel that Burke is taking the same direction as the Wild and building a solid core of players. Who was he actually going to overpay that would make Toronto a real contender? The Leafs are making shrewd decisions, building for the future, and I personally think they have a great young core that will allow them to be competitive down the road.
People honestly need to look at Brad Richards and realize he’s on the wrong side of 30 and is only a “win-now” piece. In five years, he won’t be the same impact player that he is now, and the Leafs are building a good future.
Good for you, Burke. Shame on you, Simmons.
To be fair
You really should have put “reporter” in quotes, because Steve Simmons is terrible at his job.
This guy is a douche. Unfortunately it’s a side effect of being the spotlight in TO…
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Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 1, 2011 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Like Burke said of the Sun (newspaper), useful if one has a puppy or a parakeet.
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"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM
by BlueBuds on Jul 1, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
While I do want Burke doing his job as a GM, he actually did take care of it (was on the phone to the Leafs brain trust all day, and they had a planned pitch to Brad Richards). The Leafs basically have a 5man GM team, a group that was smart enough to avoid all the nonesense that happened today.
Speaking as someone who knows to well, Simmons is a moron.
Way Overblown! If I was a leafs fan serving in Afghanistan I’d would rather have Burke at home getting players than on this self serving trip. If I wasn’t a leafs fan serving there, why would I care about seeing Burke. He would mean nothing to me! You people act like it is this great moral boosting deed that he is doing. How naive. Simmons is dead on. More fake outrage by the twitter community.
Way Overblown!
Blow me.
I was a leafs fan serving in Afghanistan I’d would rather have Burke at home getting players than on this self serving trip.
You clearly have never served, nor spoken with someone who has served overseas. Any connection to home is a welcome one, and boosts morale. You really think Burke woke up and said, “Hmmm… going to Afghanistan sounds fun.” What does he get from it, except to bring a few smiles to the fans? A self-serving trip? I ssuppose the troops are there just to have fun and party, right?
If I wasn’t a leafs fan serving there, why would I care about seeing Burke. He would mean nothing to me!
And you mean nothing to anyone else. Welcome to the world. Brian Burke matters, and you don’t. Enjoy your jealousy.
You people act like it is this great moral boosting deed that he is doing. How naive.
I am going to assume you mean “morale” not moral, but yes, yes it is. As mentioned above, ANY connection to home is a morale boost. Your inability to understand that tells me everything I need to know about your knowledge of the military world.
Simmons is dead on.
You’re a big a jackass as he is. Go buy another Sun newspaper and continue the cycle of idiotic discourse.
More fake outrage by the twitter community.
Fake outrage, huh? Fair enough. Since you aren’t sitting next to me, you can’t see just how pissed of he made me, but I rarely fake outrage. Unlike your significant other, I don’t fake anything. This pisses me off, and until you find a way to come and talk face to face about it, I would prefer you don’t call my emotions, nor my reaction to them “fake.”
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by BReynolds on Jul 1, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
slow clap, BReynolds. Well done.
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This is the best thing I have ever read…
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by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 2, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
my god you are stupid, its like looking into a black hole, only the gravitational pull is replaced by stupid
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
"More fake outrage by the twitter community."
Like Simmons’ fake outrage? What a joke.
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by PPP on Jul 2, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
as has been mentioned above
Steve Simmons is a d-bag.
This would be a non-issue if the Leafs had signed someone….anyone today. As it is it looks like Burke being out of town COULD be the reason they didn’t sign anyone.
not really, the market was insane and stupid and Burke and co didn’t bite, also they spent most of the day trying to woo richards and pitching sane offers at players,
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
According to the Leafs Assistant GM Dave Nonis:
They were in contact with Burke all day
They were not interested in signing any stupid deals (of which there were aplenty)
They made a pitch to Brad Richards
Im happy my GM did nothing today (except, you know, spend the day with our important unsigned RFA Luke Schenn)
by samspade on Jul 1, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s the 21st century. Communications technology allows the Leafs’ management to talk to each other.
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by PPP on Jul 2, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps they are using the same or similar technology that allows TSN to show Burke in Afghanistan with the troops during Simmons’ segment?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 3, 2011 6:09 AM CDT up reply actions
have you ever hurped so hard that you steve simmons?
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by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 1, 2011 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
It does seem overblown
I mean, Simmons qualifies his statements by essentially saying “this is a fine thing for Burke to do, on any other day”.
If July 1st isn’t the most important day for a GM, what is? It’s not disrespectful to point this out.
I am sure this trip was cleared weeks in advance by Burke’s boss though, and obviously Nonis is experienced enough to handle the workload. Simmons might be a fool, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. He does have a point.
Having said all that, it is the Leafs we’re talking about here. Instead of arguing, can we just laugh at their sorry franchise together?
If July 1st isn’t the most important day for a GM, what is?
That’s my point. The most important day for a GM is the least important day for anyone else on the planet. They play a game for a living. He took time out from a game to go deal with real life. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no day, in anyone’s job (save maybe the leader of a country) that is so important that taking time out to visit troops in a war zone can’t be done.
I do not credit him with any point. He’s a callous moron with little regard for anything outside of hockey. I have dedicated an awful lot of time to the game myself, but it is always in perspective. Hockey is just that. Hockey. Burke went to Afghanistan to visit Canadian troops on a major Canadian holiday. Just because free agency starts the same day means nothing to me, or to the vast majority of the world.
We can laugh at the Leafs together all we want, but when it comes to this guy, and especially this exact topic, we’re going to disagree. If I were a lesser man, you would have seen just what something looks like when it is overblown. This guy deserves the worst, and one day, he’ll get it. Karma never forgets.
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by BReynolds on Jul 2, 2011 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yergh
There is no day, in anyone’s job (save maybe the leader of a country) that is so important that taking time out to visit troops in a war zone can’t be done.
I’m not going to visit troops anytime soon. It’s not a priority for me in the least. That doesn’t make me a freedom-hating terrorist sympathizer.
This guy deserves the worst, and one day, he’ll get it. Karma never forgets.
Steve Simmons deserves the worst for questioning why the Leafs GM would visit troops on arguably the most important day on his calendar? Do you really believe he deserves the worst for that?
Do you really believe he deserves the worst for that?
Yes.
I’m not going to visit troops anytime soon. It’s not a priority for me in the least. That doesn’t make me a freedom-hating terrorist sympathizer.
The difference is? No one cares about you.
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it's your house
and you make the rules around here.
I’ve got a thick enough skin that I can take an insult or three (wouldn’t be the first time and it won’t be the last, I’m sure.
If you want me gone, just say the word, I’ll spare you the trouble of finding the ban button.
regardless
I don’t wish the worst on Simmons simply for raising a point, and I don’t think karma will bite him in the ass for this.
You believe what you wish. Karma is a mean bitch.
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Having said all that, it is the Leafs we’re talking about here. Instead of arguing, can we just laugh at their sorry franchise together?
Yes that 1 point in the standings is clearly separating the contenders (Wild) and the pretenders (Leafs)
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 2, 2011 6:33 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well played.
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by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 2, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Burke is president and GM. He has two former GMs in their group. It wasn’t a problem.
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by PPP on Jul 2, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Why were you wanting to endanger troops
then I would make it a requirement for him to spend a month embedded in a Canadian front line unit, covering just what it means to be a soldier in the middle of a war zone.
No sir as a former infantry grunt I would not want him anywhere near the troops. Grunts have it tough as it is; embedding Simmons would only endanger their lives.
Better yet why not embed Simmons with the Taliban for a week
by theprospectpark on Jul 2, 2011 2:00 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Better yet why not embed Simmons with the Taliban for a week
I’m game.
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Couldn’t agree with you more. Burke in outer space wouldn’t matter with the technology he has, i have always respected him as a GM and the fact he and Fletch stayed out of this 300 million dollar madness today has only raised my confidence in the direction the Wild are headed.
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With him being in Vancouver AND Anaheim
I’ve been resistant to respect Brian Burke. But with his support of his son, and now this, I just can’t resist anymore. Burke has my respect.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 2, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
The Sun
The Sun News is a joke, I can’t believe it has managed to gain a foothold in Canada. Exploding facts, hiring wannabe CNN types. This guy does not represent Canadians, he is a total douche. Burke knows his job, I would say he knows what he is doing. He is building long term, and young. I was really sorry they didn’t compete to keep Tim Brent, that guy is a work horse, but he may have been freeing up cap for a bigger move. Steve LaDouche can bite it.
I have no problem with where Burke was or what he was doing yesterday. I care that he is good at his job, but it also matters to me that he is a good man. Burke chose his priorities yesterday and he chose them well.
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by article1 on Jul 2, 2011 7:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Well said!
Excellent post. I get what Simmons is saying and if Burke had been anywhere other than where he was, he’d be right. But Brian Burke made a statement yesterday, he reminded all of us that there are more important things happening in the world than inflated FA contracts.
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Considering the signings yesterday
Maybe it was for the best that Burke was far away from the phone. The Leafs have deep pockets and have been known to overpay for mediocrity, and I can’t think of a better headline for yesterday’s league-wide shennanigans than that.
Now, that said? Even if Brad Richards was standing outside Brian Burke’s office ready to sign for league minimum for 10 years, Burke’s still in the right place right now. Hockey is a fine and wonderful sport, but it’s not important. If there’s a lockout, we’d be bummed. The fighting in Afghanistan and elsewhere, that’s real. That’s important. What goes on there affects us in a way far more real, far more profoundly, than where some millionaire goes for how many years to play a game.
Incidentally, I didn’t know he was American until now, I don’t really pay attention to the East—let alone the East’s GMs and their nationality. Kind of nice seeing an American visiting Canadian troops. Wonder if he’ll be there for the 4th.
Burke was actually the “GM” for Team USA at the Olympics. His fingerprints were all over that team. Size (Kesler and Backes), speed (Parise, Kane), and an overall grit (Brown, Callahan).
And Kessel. Can't forget that guy.
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by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 2, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I would expect nothing less from Simmonds. If there is one sports “Reporter” that i respect less than Simmonds, i can’t think of one.
His Ignorance of the game of hockey and his prejudice towards leafs management has clouded his judgement and eroded his journalism skills.( Or lack thereof)
by Donnie Messervey on Jul 2, 2011 11:59 AM CDT reply actions
Has Don Cherry been reached for comment?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 2, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions
You are wrong
Sorry BReynolds you are wrong on this one. Simmons and Leafs fans have every right to question Burke about this. Quite simply, it is his job to be in Toronto preparing for free agency, not hobnobbing with the troops. What bugs me even more about your comments is that they are part of a larger syndrome in a part of our population whereas when any mention of “the troops” comes up, you lose all sense of reason.
You are so conditioned to say “trooops, yes….anything else, bad” when the subject comes up that your preconditioned response in no different than a Nazi who saluted the fuhrer without question. Some of us actually take our duty as citizens more seriously. We have actually had to view what’s going on over there with a critical eye (as every truly patriotic citizen should). We’ve had to look at the situation with our hearts and minds and ask if this situation is moral and just. Anybody with a conscience would have to say it is not. The problem then comes with the aforementioned “troops.” People always say “even if you don’t support the war ya gotta support the troops.” Well, no you don’t actually because they are part of the problem. In an all volunteer army they have chosen to be in this position. Because they have, they have allowed the government to use them as pawns. As a citizen who cares about this country, I would hope those who were considering joining the service would assess this situation and say “no, I’m not going to allow this government to waste my life on an unjust war.” But they don’t do that because they don’t take the time, just like you, to actually think and make an assessment of things. It’s hard to think and face moral questions I know. But many of us are led to that by our moral code. Unlike yourself who doesn’t have to look into himself and answer the tough questions and make an assessment, you’re just able to fall back on the “troops good” propaganda. Simmons has every right to call Brian Burke out. I would say he’s more of a patriot than you because at least he took the time to THINK and come to a conclusion. Get back to me with your opinions when you’re able to look into yourself and make honest assessments rather than using the automatic switch when faced with a question.
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Sorry BReynolds you are wrong on this one.
I disagree, but I am sure your vast knowledge will convince me otherwise.
Simmons and Leafs fans have every right to question Burke about this. Quite simply, it is his job to be in Toronto preparing for free agency, not hobnobbing with the troops.
You have every right to question anything you want. Just make sure you thank the people who gave you that right while you do it, OK? As for “hobnobbing,” he wasn’t at a ritzy hotel. He’s in a war zone. Nice try, though.
What bugs me even more about your comments is that they are part of a larger syndrome in a part of our population whereas when any mention of "the troops" comes up, you lose all sense of reason.
I haven’t lost all sense of reason. However, I do work every day of my life to support their mission, and hearing someone desecrate that pisses me off. Just as you feel the Leafs fans have the right to criticize Burke, I have the right to disagree. You visit with the troops just one time. Just one, and the then tell me I’m wrong that Burke being there was a good thing.
You are so conditioned to say "trooops, yes….anything else, bad" when the subject comes up that your preconditioned response in no different than a Nazi who saluted the fuhrer without question.
I’m a Nazi? People want a civilized discussion, so tell me how I am supposed to respond to being called a Nazi with anything other than a “fuck you.” I salute their efforts by choice, not by force or by conditioning. I spend every day of my life working to do just that. By choice, as afforded me by the Constitution of the United States, and protected by those that have died to defend my right to do whatever I choose.
Some of us actually take our duty as citizens more seriously.
Indeed, because if I support the troops, I am suddenly a lesser citizen or less than you in some way. Makes perfect sense. Care to justify how that works?
We have actually had to view what’s going on over there with a critical eye (as every truly patriotic citizen should). We’ve had to look at the situation with our hearts and minds and ask if this situation is moral and just. Anybody with a conscience would have to say it is not.
You are entitled to that opinion, but this is not the place for that discussion. My email is at the bottom of the page, should you wish to continue that argument.
The problem then comes with the aforementioned "troops."
Care to explain why the use of quotes around the word troops?
Well, no you don’t actually because they are part of the problem.
Indeed, by sacrificing their lives and their relationships to defend your rights, they clearly are part of the problem. Those evil bastards, they who give up everything, including their lives to fight for your right to be a pompous jackass. I can see how they made the decision, likely out of desperation for job or pure love of country, to lay down the ultimate sacrifice are somehow the ones who made the choice to go fight there. Make perfect sense to me. Not really, but hey, if you want to live in your purple skied world so be it.
Because they have, they have allowed the government to use them as pawns. As a citizen who cares about this country, I would hope those who were considering joining the service would assess this situation and say "no, I’m not going to allow this government to waste my life on an unjust war."
Again, not the place for this conversation. Shoot me an email should you choose to continue this discussion.
But they don’t do that because they don’t take the time, just like you, to actually think and make an assessment of things. It’s hard to think and face moral questions I know.
Right. They joined because they are stupid. Not out of love of country, or because they wanted to defend the rights of others. Nope. Only because they were too stupid to weigh the other options. And just like me? Really? I haven’t made an assessment of things? Are you kidding me? Get off your soap box and realize that the entire post was an assessment of of things. I faced the moral questions, and I do everyday, but thanks for simply dismissing my opinion because I disagree with you.
But many of us are led to that by our moral code.
Again, just because I disagree with you does not make me immoral. I am anti-war, but I will fight to the death to honor those who fight on my behalf.
Unlike yourself who doesn’t have to look into himself and answer the tough questions and make an assessment, you’re just able to fall back on the "troops good" propaganda.
I don’t have a civil response for this. Moving on.
Simmons has every right to call Brian Burke out.
Never said he didn’t. Show me where I did.
I would say he’s more of a patriot than you because at least he took the time to THINK and come to a conclusion.
He made no argument based on patriotism or the war being right or wrong. He said Burke needed to focus on hockey ( a game) rather than on supporting those fighting to defend his rights (real life). There is no patriotism in putting hockey first, not even in Canada. Sorry. It’s a game. If you don’t see that, you need perspective.
Get back to me with your opinions when you’re able to look into yourself and make honest assessments rather than using the automatic switch when faced with a question.
I’m here. Ready when you are.
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by BReynolds on Jul 2, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow
I don’t agree with Simmons- pretty cool of Burke to take time out to visit troops on Canada Day.
However, it doesn’t change the fact that Burke has a job to do. While you note you spend a time of time trying to help and honor our troops, do you ignore your obligations to do so? I think the people who meeting returning troops at the airport are fantastic, but if someone decided to just not show up to work one day so they could do so, they should be fired. I’m sure Burke was in contact with everyone in Toronto. I’m sure he had clear instructions on who they wanted and what they would pay set. I’m sure shit was getting done. But I can also see why someone would question why the GM of a team that’s struggled for decades isn’t around on one of the biggest days for his job.
But that isn’t really my problem. My problem is your replies to everyone who disagrees with you on this, BReynolds. It’s pretty sad you can’t engage is discourse without sinking to “blow me.” That’s an understandable reply to someone pointing out Marty Havlat is a glass man who only performs in contract years, but not to someone disagreeing on a serious subject and stating their view. Especially when the TOS agreement has this on it:
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You disagree with Simmons? Cool. But when you start “wishing the worst on him” and shit talking everyone who disagrees with you, you just sound like a child. You may love the troops but this whole thread makes it look like you don’t have the first clue how to live in the civil society they fight to defend.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Did you see the guy he told to blow him? I wouldn’t waste time with an intelligent answer on that guy.
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by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 2, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Why should I be civil with people who do not deserve it? Sad that you can’t see the humor in that reply. You must live a sad, disturbing life devoid of joy. Does it worry you if the sun is going to rise in the morning? “Blow me” is a perfectly legitimate way of telling someone off, and gets the point across quickly. If you cannot handle adult words, feel free to leave whenever you choose to. However, I would suggest staying off the internet. Those scary cuss words are everywhere.
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Your turn
However, it doesn’t change the fact that Burke has a job to do.
And he can do it without being in the room.
While you note you spend a time of time trying to help and honor our troops, do you ignore your obligations to do so?
Often times? Yes.
I think the people who meeting returning troops at the airport are fantastic, but if someone decided to just not show up to work one day so they could do so, they should be fired.
Then you’re a jerk. No work is that important. None. It’s just a job, it’s just money. You really work at a job that is so important you can’t take a day off without the world ending? I doubt that.
I’m sure Burke was in contact with everyone in Toronto. I’m sure he had clear instructions on who they wanted and what they would pay set. I’m sure shit was getting done. But I can also see why someone would question why the GM of a team that’s struggled for decades isn’t around on one of the biggest days for his job.
IT’S HOCKEY. Life will not end if the Leafs lose a couple games. It won’t. I promise. They’ve been doing it for a long time. We’re still here. Biggest days? He has ALL SUMMER to sign players. All summer. Not just July 1st.
But that isn’t really my problem. My problem is your replies to everyone who disagrees with you on this, BReynolds. It’s pretty sad you can’t engage is discourse without sinking to "blow me."
I appreciate your concern for my ability to reply. However, I did not feel it warranted more than that. This is adult conversation, and if you can’t handle it, the door works both ways. Thanks though. Also… blow me.
Especially when the TOS agreement has this on it:
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Yeah? And?
You disagree with Simmons? Cool. But when you start "wishing the worst on him" and shit talking everyone who disagrees with you, you just sound like a child.
Again, thanks for your opinion. I do wish the worst on him. I hope he gets what is coming to him. If you took a moment to get to know me, you would understand that. I won;t waste my time explaining it. You likely wouldn’t get it anyway.
You may love the troops but this whole thread makes it look like you don’t have the first clue how to live in the civil society they fight to defend.
They don;t fight to defend a “civil society.” They fight to defend my right to say whatever I want, and I did. They would be proud, and I know they are due to the flood of emails I have received on the topic, and the phone calls and texts from the service members I work with on a daily basis. Forgive me if I take their opinion with more value than yours.
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by BReynolds on Jul 3, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
try getting on a plane
and flying anywhere from the USA, and tell me if those troops are fighting to defend your rights :-/ The notion of freedom in the US has been eroded to the point of near non-existence.
If those troops think they are fighting to protect freedom in the USA, they need to take a better look at the situation. Or browse through theagitator blog for a daily run-down or rights violations and general jack-booted thuggery in America.
Those troops over there are fighting for something, but it sure as hell isn’t for freedom in America.
by Temujin on Jul 3, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m done with you. Your world view is conspiracy and pure nuttery. You have strayed so far from the subject (hockey) that you no longer have a leg to stand on. I’m done. Enjoy your miserable existence.
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Like I said before
it’s your house and I’ll go elsewhere if you wish.
I would disagree that I’ve strayed far from the subject, since you also brought up the point of the troops fighting to defend your rights. It’s all related to the central idea of Burke going to Afghanistan and the reasons for it (and subsequent reactions).
Your “warning” to me, which I received upon loading this page just now, was certainly not necessary. If you don’t think my contribution around here is needed, say the word and I’ll jet. You’ve said why you feel Simmons deserves the worst, and I’ve countered the point with my own response.
And for the record, my existence is not miserable in the least.
You say you’ll leave if I ask. I asked. Now go.
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seriously?
Normally I wouldn’t bother to post a reply to an editorial like this, but there are a few things that have been completely overlooked in all of this. While I can certainly see how some might be irked by Mr. Simmons comments…He is, none the less, correct in his analyse of the situation.
Yes, Brian Burke did preform a selfless action to help make Canada Day better for our Troops abroad…this is a fact, but it comes at a rather curious time in our role in Afghanistan. Canada’s mission is over….in fact for many of the men and woman serving, Canada Day was their last day in Afghanistan. So while I applaud Brian Burke’s good deed, I question his motive behind it…as it seems to me that his presence in Afghanistan would have served a far greater good if it were say a year or two ago when the fighting was at its fiercest with no end really in sight. If I were a Leafs fan and a soldier, having dinner on Canada Day served by the GM of my hockey team would have been a much bigger surprise then if it were the day before I go home to my family.
Now, I do not know if this was Brian Burke’s first time in Afghanistan or not either….for all I know he could have gone many times before for the exact same reason he’s went on Canada Day….but when you’re the GM of a team that couldn’t make the playoffs if you paid them millions and millions of dollars to do it (…..>_> lol) then one certainly would have vastly more important things to do on such an important date in the hockey year. But lets face it, what it all comes down to is it seems like Brian Burke just said F it and went to Afghanistan to do a good deed because lets face it. Did Toronto really even stand a chance of getting Brad Richards or Jaromir Jagr? Of course not, any players who would have even gone into Brian Burke’s office to hear his pitch would have had a mediocre impact on his teams performance at best.
Now….as for your comments about Sun Media….coughs CLEARLY, you do not live in or anywhere near Toronto. Because if you did you’d know that the Sun has been consistently sh**ing on the Leafs year in and year out for the past decade easy. It’s gotten to the point where not only the reporters but many of the fans too, look at the Leafs as a joke and openly mock their performance. If Brian Burke were naive enough to think that he would in any way, shape or form alter Sun Media’s coverage on the Leafs by banning them from his arena, then such a foolish would not be GM of an NHL team. The Sun reporters would continue to pan the Leafs, but would simply watch Hockey Night in Canada instead. No doubt they would provide the same level of reporting at a fraction of the price.
So, in the end, Mr. Simmons had a very valid point when he questioned why Mr. Burke decided to go off to Afghanistan rather than try and rebuild his team that nobody seems to care about anymore by soliciting free agents to come play for his team and help restore it to its former glory. For all the young players the Leafs have, they are only going to stay on a sinking ship for so long.
He is, none the less, correct in his analyse of the situation.
A Habs fan here to bash the GM of the Leafs? Color me shocked.
I question his motive behind it
Life is just a big conspiracy. Go burn a cop car.
as it seems to me that his presence in Afghanistan would have served a far greater good if it were say a year or two ago when the fighting was at its fiercest with no end really in sight. If I were a Leafs fan and a soldier, having dinner on Canada Day served by the GM of my hockey team would have been a much bigger surprise then if it were the day before I go home to my family.
So he should have gone sooner… no wait… later… no wait…
then one certainly would have vastly more important things to do on such an important date in the hockey year.
Nothing more important. Ever. As noted above, he has all summer to sign players, not just July 1st. The date is not critical.
But lets face it, what it all comes down to is it seems like Brian Burke just said F it and went to Afghanistan to do a good deed because lets face it. Did Toronto really even stand a chance of getting Brad Richards or Jaromir Jagr? Of course not, any players who would have even gone into Brian Burke’s office to hear his pitch would have had a mediocre impact on his teams performance at best.
You flip flop so many times in your post I have no idea what you are even arguing for anymore. Jagr? Jagr is a joke. Richards? Second tier free agent vastly overpaid. I’m sure he thought about it and said " screw it, my team sucks, let’s go to a war zone." I’m sure that’s EXACTLY how the thinking went.
Now….as for your comments about Sun Media….coughs CLEARLY, you do not live in or anywhere near Toronto.
And the fact that I write about the Wild may have given you a clue about that.
Because if you did you’d know that the Sun has been consistently sh**ing on the Leafs year in and year out for the past decade easy. It’s gotten to the point where not only the reporters but many of the fans too, look at the Leafs as a joke and openly mock their performance.
So you only believe what the media tells you to? Awesome. Good job.
If Brian Burke were naive enough to think that he would in any way, shape or form alter Sun Media’s coverage on the Leafs by banning them from his arena, then such a foolish would not be GM of an NHL team. The Sun reporters would continue to pan the Leafs, but would simply watch Hockey Night in Canada instead. No doubt they would provide the same level of reporting at a fraction of the price.
Yet, it makes the point that they are not worthy of being credentialed. I don’t disagree with you. They would certainly continue, however, it would send the message that only actual journalists are allowed. The White House doesn’t credential the National Enquirer for a reason. It is garbage, just like the Sun.
So, in the end, Mr. Simmons had a very valid point when he questioned why Mr. Burke decided to go off to Afghanistan rather than try and rebuild his team that nobody seems to care about anymore by soliciting free agents to come play for his team and help restore it to its former glory.
“Go off to Afghanistan.” Do you even see what it is you wrote? As if it just a leisurely jaunt. And who wants to rebuild their team through free agency? Morons, that’s who. But hey, you’re a Habs fan, so that’s really all you know.
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okay here i go
First of all the nazi comment- how dare you HOW FRAKKING DARE YOU compare supporting American/Canadian troops to Nazi propaganda. This is typical of extreme left wing terrorist supporting code pink propaganda where people who have grown up and enjoyed the freedoms that soldiers died to give you criticize America because of the propaganda that has been fed to you. In case you didn’t know, those soldiers are over there fighting for freedom. They are fighting so morons like Chris113 can spout their opinions freely w/o fear of being killed like in most of the countries they pretend are somehow oppressed. Conditioned to support troops? I’m sorry, but the men and women who leave their families behind, who put themselves and their families through hell to protect my right to be an asshole on the internet- those people deserve more respect, more honor, and more than I can ever repay. Brian Burke wants to visit them on Canada Day, wants to visit them on trade deadline day, Christmas, Thanksgiving I don’t give a flying fuck. Burke knows they are more important than throwing away 6 million a year on Erik Cole.
Freedom don’t come free. The reason you, I and every other hockey fan in this world gets to sit back and enjoy, get mad about, love, and argue about a game is because soldiers give all to protect us. Brian Burke said to those men, on Canada day, you are what makes our freedom possible. He said, I want to show you what you mean to me, the Maple Leafs and the country. He is an American and he did this on Canada Day. He should be commended, not criticized.
Lastly, all this bullshit about him blowing off free agency. Are you freaking kidding me? As has already been pointed out, he could be in outer space and not miss a beat. That’s modern technology. Plus, when free agency started, guess what, it was night in Afghanistan so its not like he was dancing around like Bob Hope during crunch time. I guarantee, the Leafs did not lose out on one free agent because of this. Richards was headed to NY, that was long predetermined, but almost immediately afterward he gets Connolly. How did that happen? Oh maybe because they were all working. This is 2011 not 1811, Burke could’ve been in Toronto, Mississauga, New York, Afghanistan, or the frakking Moon and it wouldn’t have made a difference. he;s a genius for not overspending just like Fletcher.
There are people in this world who don’t know if today will be the day they are killed by a suicide bomber, who are afraid to stand up for freedom for fear of being killed. People who see life, liberty, and happiness as a dream not a god given right, and you criticize Burke for supporting those people who are trying to give people those things? I feel sorry for you, I truly do.
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by jerem77 on Jul 3, 2011 1:13 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
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I would recommend that no one further engage “Temujin” on this or any other thread. His record with SBNation is not a good one. While we here at Hockey Wilderness do not ban people for expressing their opinions, nor can I think of a time we have deleted comments save for spam, we highly recommend that you not engage this person any further.
Thank you.
The management.
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I’ve never been banned from a SBNation blog, and before today I’d never received so much as a warning from any blog admin (although admittedly my trolling at second city hockey was over the top and probably warranted one).
In fact, since registering on SBN nearly two and a half years ago, I’ve had a lot of good discussions and a lot of laughs. I’ve given a bunch of heckles and I’ve received more than my share in return.
Clearly you feel strongly about the troops, and have expressed as much many times over. I disagree and have expressed a counter to your opinion.
If I’ve violated the terms of service of this blog, I apologize and will try not to make the mistake again. You warning has been received, and again I say that if you don’t want me commenting around here then just say the word.
The word.
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if you want to avoid such opinions...
…Perhaps you should avoid applying your American military sensibilities to a Canadian situation.
Temujin is an alright guy, and the perspective I’m getting here is he’s engaged himself in a culture clash.
The topic at hand invites a Canadian perspective on some of the modern military situations, which is very, very, different from what Americans are used to. Canadians in general are very, very slow to use “fighting for our freedom” to justify being involved in an overseas war.
…Perhaps you should avoid applying your American military sensibilities to a Canadian situation.
I’ll pass, since 99.99999% of the response has been positive, even from Canadians. Thank you for the advice, though. As for Temujin being an “alright guy,” the fact that his comments have been deleted from multiple SBN blogs tells me otherwise.
My parting smart ass comment… when Canada actually decides to “fight for their freedom” give us a call. We have a history with the Brits. We’ll help you out.
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when Canada actually decides to "fight for their freedom" give us a call. We have a history with the Brits. We’ll help you out.
See, now this is just an uncool thing to say. If you look at our two histories prior to the Iraq war, you’ll note that we’ve been right their fighting alongside you at all times. We’ve fought for your freedom with you. Heck yeah we’re a smaller army; we’re less than 10% of your population. But don’t EVER accuse Canada of not stepping up. Heck, we’ve probably shown up to more battles than we didn’t. Iraq is one of VERY few examples of times where we weren’t there right beside you, although there are more examples where you weren’t there right beside us. This kind of statement is what builds anti-American resentment in Canada, and it’d be nice if you could re-think it.
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I didn’t mean anything more than Canada still being “part” of the British throne. That;s all I meant. It was a friendly poke. Everyone needs to step back from the ledge.
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by Sean Zandberg on Jul 8, 2011 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions
That's not right
That’s insulting.The history of our nation was not one born in blood shed. It didn’t have to be. We have a different outlook ingrained in our culture from our very origin. Their is no weakness in that.
I’m generally surprised you’d go in say something that after your original post. Our contributions to world events vs the size of our population is staggering, but apparently that doesn’t warrent respect.
I’m trying very hard not to make a backhansss
Calm down. Just breathe, my friend. You don;t read here often enough to take offense to that. See above comment. I love Canada and everything about it. I also enjoy giving my neighbors to the north a poke to the ribs every now and again. No offense intended.
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At the risk
of pissing off the management, a couple thoughts occur to me as I read thru the comments here in this thread. Please note, these are my opinions, and obviously disagreement is expected. First off, let me get this right out in the open: simmons is an idiot, and nobody in the hockey world should give a rats ass if burke is making calls from kandahar airfield or from the Maple leafs dressing room. It just doesn’t matter; the free agency circus is a telephone based event, and he can do the job just fine from anywhere. So lets just stop worrying about that at all.
So here’s what I noticed in this thread:
1: the troops are over their fighting for our freedom. Um, no, they most definitely are not. Our freedom is not the battle here, and never was. Before anyone throws a rock at me, let me make this clear: I fully support Canadian and American troops out there fighting the good fight, I’m not for a second saying I don’t. But, no they are NOT fighting for our freedom here. Afghanistan is no threat to our freedom. Iraq was no threat to our freedom. Iran is no threat to our freedom. The closest statement you can make to that is that in a somewhat obtuse way they are fighting for our safety…but even that could be argued. Frankly all we’re doing is pissing off the terrorists in other countries that support the taliban. If this war was against a real power, then maybe I could agree with that statement, but no, this is a police action, not a fight for freedom. At least, not for our freedom. Whether we have the right to decide what level of freedom other countries get is a whole other discussion, and I have my opinions on that which are probably contrary to some peoples’ and in line with others.
2: The nazi comment was ridiculous, but I do know what the person was trying to say…and they aren’t completely wrong. There seems to be a certain level of kneejerk reaction to words in this thread (on both sides of the argument); obviously it’s very sensitive subject matter and really ranks up their with gay marriage and abortion in provocative-ness level. If you view any argument from a holistic standpoint, you can see that not all opinions here are purely black or white…there’s alot of gray. For myself, (warning: provocative statement coming…) I totally disagreed with the invasion of Iraq, thought it was an illegal war based on lies, and the invasion of Afghanistan is not too far removed from that. BUT I understand why we’re there. Regardless of my feelings for either war, I don’t (and can’t) have any ill feelings to our troops who are out there putting their lives on the line because they were asked to, and it doesn’t make me hate my country for being involved. I guess what i’m saying is that someone can disagree with the war but not hate their country… This is something that really bugs me about discussions of the war, maybe more so in the US, but here in Canada as well: Just because someone doesn’t support the war doesn’t mean we hate the troops, our country or you. Likewise the other way around: just because someone does support the war doesn’t mean they hate all Muslims, hippies or the rights of a country to make it’s own decisions as to it’s style of government. At least I hope not.
3: Temujin can be troll-y but I thought he was fairly reasoned here, even though he had the unpopular side of the conversation. Maybe his point was more tenable than his way of putting it across. Maybe not, I dunno.
4: You keep saying hockey is just a game. Really, it’s not. NHL hockey is big business. It’s a game to us watching it, but to the teams and management, this is a large enterprise. If you look at it from a different perspective it’s hard to argue that it has less worth than anything else. Some anthropologists would say that the entertainment industry becomes more important to a society’s survival and well being during hard times, so maybe hockey management IS pretty important.
Finally, I hate Brian Burke. He’s a weasel and a tool. I hated him when he was here in Vancouver; not because of anything he did with the team, but because of his arrogance and off-putting general douchebaggery. But…he does do some good works (like most people), and I can applaud him for visiting the troops and other things he’s done. You can like and respect someone’s actions and still not want to hang out with them. Just saying.
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Great comment. Let me just say this. Big business is even less important to me than hockey. I don;t care if the guy ran Wal-Mart. The same message applies. Any day and everyday is OK to visit the troops. If he doesn’t sign a free agent because of it, then that free agent is a dick who should be on the team anyway.
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this is where u and I disagree. I think good on burke going to see the troops AND continuing to do his job while out there. Big business IS important, at least to the entity that is that business, and never will the president of a company go visit someone on the day that they’re closing a large merger or acquisition. However, that doesn’t mean that the president can’t tele/videoconference in to the meeting and do his/her duty to the stakeholders while taking care of important personal business. But to call a free agent a dick because they wouldn’t wait for the GM of the team that’s trying to woo them to come back from a personal trip is unfair to the player and indicates a very myopic view of the process. It’s also important to note, this is the leafs…how many players who want to win a stanley cup reallllllly want to play in TO? Even if the leafs were a contender (snicker…gag), it’s a media microscope that may not be the most pleasant place to be. I’d think they all need some wooing, and if someone doesn’t think that’s their first choice of teams to play on, the opportunity to not sign there might actually be welcomed. So, yeah, he still needs to do his job. Worst case scenario he could bring the troops morale just as easily on june 27 as july 1, btw…
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But to call a free agent a dick because they wouldn’t wait for the GM of the team that’s trying to woo them to come back from a personal trip is unfair to the player and indicates a very myopic view of the process.
It wasn’t a personal trip. Not in any way, shape or form. The military asked him to come and he said yes. Any, I repeat ANY NHL player who refuses to sign with a team because the GM is visiting a war zone to help boost morale and give the people fighting a taste of home… any free agent who does that is a dick, and I would say it directly to their face.
Call my view myopic all you want, but I understand the process as well as anyone, and it still means nothing to me.
Worst case scenario he could bring the troops morale just as easily on june 27 as july 1, btw…
Is June 27th Canada Day? There is symbolism involved here, too. Canada Day (while I am not from Canada nor do I understand it’s full meaning) is more important than any other random day. I am sorry you disagree with me on this, but I am tired of repeating the same argument over and over again. You fall in a small minority that feels Burke should be in his office rather than supporting the troops.
When you find yourself defending the thoughts of Steve Simmons, it is time for a long hard look in the mirror.
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Wait a tick...
Is June 27th Canada Day?
How is that relevant? Did you yourself not say that seeing a connection to home is a huge morale booster at any point? How does it being on Canada day (or Independence Day) mean any more or less to the kid out there sweating his nuts off an fearing for his life every time he leaves the base?
Any, I repeat ANY NHL player who refuses to sign with a team because the GM is visiting a war zone to help boost morale and give the people fighting a taste of home… any free agent who does that is a dick, and I would say it directly to their face.
So either you didn’t read what I said, or else you’re saying that free agents should sign with this team just because Burke went to support the troops. I’d prefer to think it’s the former, not the latter, cuz I don’t imagine you’d be writing for a hockey blog if you had that little clue about hockey. My whole point is that the option for someone to not sign there because he’s away just isn’t there. If he wants to get it done, and the player wants to get it done, it’ll get done. This is why I struggle a bit with your whole stance on this. Burke going to visit the troops is irrelevant and independent of hockey, completely. By taking the tack you’re taking, you’re pretty much doing exactly what the reporter did, only from the other side. It’s important to note: NOBODY’s life needs to be put on hold because someone is visiting the troops.
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You say I didn’t read what you wrote, yet you didn’t read what I wrote. Simmons was pissed off because Burke was in Afghanistan on July 1st. July 1st is what? Canada Day. Yes, it makes a difference. It is great to go visit any day, I agree 100%. However, holidays are special. People coming to visit is great, people coming to visit on holidays is even better.
Again, I do this every day of my life… talk to troops, talk to people who have been there. It’s what I do. If you can’t accept that it means more to them, then I can’t convince you. Go find a vet and ask them if it would matter, OK? I already have my proof, I have shared it with you. Go find your own.
I don’t understand how I misinterpreted your words. You are saying Burke needed to be there to close the deal. I am saying any free agent who would decide not to sign simply because Burke was in Afghanistan is someone I don’t playing for the team I cheer for. I never said they should sign because he went there. I am saying it shouldn’t make a difference if he is there or not, and specifically when he is doing something so selfless. If he were at McDonald’s buying a Big Mac? Maybe. Doing what he was? No way.
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