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Editor's Note: We decided to promote this Fan Post to highlight some of the thoughts from the fans with Dany Heatley coming to Minnesota. It sounds like Heatley will play on the right side with Koivu, so long as there is chemistry. Maybe that makes all of this go away, but the following post details where Heatley seems to play better in different situations. Please enjoy.

I found this comment by someone on the Sharks beat writer's blog about the Heatley Havlat trade. I think it's very interesting and explains why Dany Heatley's production declined since going to San Jose. This doesn't mean Heatley has not also slowed down a little bit, or that injuries weren't also a factor, but this should at least alleviate the worst of the "Heatley's passed his prime" worries.

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Here is the post:

"I am sick of Doug Wilson, so I did not want to get this information out there while Heatley was here, because I knew it would just help the team if they found out, and I want Doug Wilson gone. And that information is, I know why Heatley didn’t do as well as he did in Ottawa, and it has nothing to do the injuries or anything else. In fact, I knew after about five games. I was so excited about the Heatley acquisition when it happened – to me, watching him reach his stick all the way up in the air for a one-timer, like he did all the time in Ottawa, and then absolutely nail it, was one of the most beautiful sights in hockey.

And that is precisely why my excitement turned to utter frustration about five games into the Heatley tenure. You see, in two seasons of Dany Heatley, I’m not sure we got to see that, once. They took the best one-timer in the league at the time, and instead of putting him on his off wing (read: his one-timer side), and letting him tee off passes from Joe Thornton like I had envisioned, they put him on the left wing 5 on 5, and in front of the net on the powerplay. They played him as if he was Ryan Smyth, or Holmstrom. It actually got so bad, that I remember either Doug Wilson or Mclellan saying (or maybe it was Remenda), maybe a season and a half after we got him, that, "The perception about Heatley when he came from Ottawa was that he scored most of his goals on slapshots and one-timers, but that’s actually not true. Heatley needs to get to the front of the net and score the dirty goals."

If it’s not true, why was that the perception? Because, obviously, it was true. I guess it’s a hard concept for [Sharks Assistant Coach] Drew Remenda or whoever to grasp, but something can be true while he was in Ottawa, and then be different on a different team.

Anyway, the bottom line is, from the moment Heatley got to San Jose, Mclellan used him wrong. I used to not be a fan of Mclellan, for this reason, and a few other things, but the last season and a half, I’ve really liked what he’s done, overall. I like the system, I feel the Sharks play such an organized game now, because of him. But even when I became a convert about liking Mclellan, I would always say to my friends, I like Mclellan, minus the Heatley thing. That was the one blatant thing. They used him 100% wrong. That’s why he struggled.

In fact, I’ll say this. I didn’t need any other proof than comparing Heatley in Ottawa to Heatley in San Jose to know I was right, but I got it. Every once in awhile, Heatley would end up on the right wing by accident, or just because the way the puck was going, he and the right winger had to rotate, and when he did end up there, it was a 180% change. He could rush the puck, defenders had to respect that the puck was always in a shooting position, so he could do so much more. He could deke them. Check this out, I actually remember a specific play against Ottawa. 

Watch at the 1:20 mark or so, and you can clearly see what I’m talking about on the powerplay. Heatley is standing in front of the net ala Holmstrom, instead of either playing the right half boards, or where I, personally, would have put him. Put him at the right point the Sharks had no hard-shooting defenseman after Blake and Ehrhoff left, and Heatley shoots it about twice as well as those guys when you factor in the speed and accuracy combined, so that’s where I would have put him, and he probably would have been awesome there.

As for his effectiveness on the right wing compared to the left, it’s not in the video, but it was a play where he got it towards the right wing, sort of middle of the ice but on the right wing, where he attack with the puck on his stick facing the middle of the ice, and he deked past his defender, got in on the goalie, almost scored but drew a penalty.

It was a great play, no groin issue or anything there, he’s actually faster than people realize, and he beat his defender because he was on the right wing. It’s much harder to stickhandle from the left wing. You’ll notice almost all of Ovechkin’s highlight reel goals start with him on his-off wing, because that’s the best to attack from. The puck is always in a shooting position, and you can either shoot it or stickhandle from there much more easily.

This is the same for Heatley, except there’s also the added bonus of Heatley’s one-timer. You can’t one-time pucks from the left wing if you’re left handed. This is why you often see defenseman switch sides during the middle of the powerplay to "set up the one-timer." In Ottawa, they put Heatley in positions where he could utilize his one-timer. In San Jose, he probably didn’t score 3 goals with his patented one-timer in his entire two-year stay with the Sharks.

So that’s why Heatley didn’t work out in San Jose, if you want to know the truth. I may not know much, but I know this, and saw it immediately upon his arriving in San Jose. I went to a preseason game, noticed that he didn’t get any one-timers (that was the reason I went, actually, I was dying to see Heatley in a Sharks jersey, smashing one-timers, I drove 3 hours…).

Then the regular season started, no one-timers in the first game. But you can’t draw conclusions that fast. You have to wait, hope it will come, hope that he just didn’t get open those first few games, or whatever. But it never happened, and it wasn’t about getting open, it was about how Mclellan used him. Wrong wing 5 on 5 (Ottawa used him on the left wing sometimes 5 on 5 too, but the difference is they set up their offense so that he could find his way over to the right wing eventually – SJ didn’t do this), and the powerplay is where they really, really misused him.

You have an amazing shot like that, and you’re sticking him in front of the net? Anyone with a big body can screen the goalie and tap home rebounds. You have to utilize your weapons. In fact, that’s what I always used to say to my friends when talking about why I didn’t used to like Mclellan, it was that he "didn’t utilize the weapons at his disposal." You have a shot like that, but you put him in positions where he can’t use it? Really stupid.

But Mclellan wanted to keep his system tight. You’ll notice almost no wingers on San Jose play the off-wing, and on the powerplay, Mclellan prefers to have the two point-men on their strong sides. It’s not as good for one-timers, but it’s much easier to keep a puck in the zone when it’s being cleared along the boards when you’re on your forehand.

Heatley bombed because he was used wrong. I’m sure injuries didn’t help, but he wasn’t always injured. He went stretches of like 20 games with just 1 goal even while healthy, crazy stuff like that, which had never happened in Ottawa, and that’s because they turned him into Holmstrom. He would have good stretches, where he’d stand in front of the net, and rebounds would come to him constantly, and he’d get 4 goals in 4 games. But then there would be stretches where no rebounds came, and that was the only way he was scoring goals with the Sharks. T

hey gave him more rebounds and more dirty goals in front of the net, but they took away his shot and his creativity. And you can’t always get dirty goals. Sometimes the goalie gives up rebounds and the defense doesn’t cover you, sometimes the goalie doesn’t, or sometimes he does but the defense is all over you, so that’s an even further explanation on his long droughts.

Lots of interesting information here, but one thing stands out above all else, and that is Heatley has to play on the right side in Minnesota. It's imperative. Especially on the powerplay. For left handed shooters, the left wing is for the type of left winger who relies on speed to the outside, burning past people. Heatley is not that type of player. Heatley needs to be on the right side, his shooting, one-timer side, where he can blast one-timers and cut to the middle, cut to the slot, for wristshots, both of which are deadly.

The video above is of Heatley's 50 goals in Ottawa in the 05-06 season, and like the commenter said, you can see most of them are from the right side in that video, whereas he played left in San Jose. There is even a comment by a Sharks fan saying, "I'm a Sharks fan trying to see the difference between the 50 goal scorer in Ottawa and the 39/26 goal scorer. It seems obvious that somehow Heater needs to get to the right side of the ice. I don't think I've seen Heater rip a one timer with the Sharks...maybe he should be playing with Wellwood(right handed passer)..."

It wasn't common knowledge in SJ that this was the problem, clearly, but it should be in Minnesota. The difference between RW Heatley (and right side/right point on the powerplay) and LW Heatley is night and day. 

I hope you guys found this information helpful. Credit to "YJohny" on the Sharks blog comments for the detailed writeup of all this.

The opinions posted here are not those of Hockey Wilderness

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Pretty interesting stuff

Kind of reminds me of how MTL would mis-use Latendresse just because of his big body. The fact is, sure Latendresse can hit, but it’s not an integral part of his game. MTL tried to make this scorer into a grinder and it didn’t work, and from what I just read, it seems like SJ tried to do a bit of the same thing with Heatley. Size does not always dictate style of play. You see plenty of small wingers throw their body around, just like you see some big bodies play with finesse.

Kind of baffling that coaches can’t realize this simple fact sometimes.

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by JSLandry on Jul 4, 2011 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Heatley played RW with Thornton and Marleau and RW with Couture and Clowe. I can’t even come up with a specific example of when he might have played LW for the Sharks. Whoever wrote this should have watched more than the first five games, clearly.

by meetyourmako on Jul 6, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see

I guess I put too much stock on what the guy wrote… The part I wrote about Lats is true though. It came from his own mouth.

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by JSLandry on Jul 6, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rule of thumb:

Working the Corners blog posts = GREAT! A must-read for Sharks coverage.
Working the Corners comments section = One step above Yahoo comments.

If you’re in the market for commentary, go to Fear The Fin. But WTC is still great for news and updates, just don’t go below DP’s sign-off =P

by Nick! on Jul 11, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind!

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by JSLandry on Jul 11, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's interesting about this is that Heatley was always listed as a LW for Ottawa, and Alfredsson was the RW

But that’s not how they played it on the ice.

Man… watching that highlight reel brings back some memories. It’s still just as frustrating to watch him sit around waiting for other players to set him up, but his shot is a thing of beauty.

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by Mark Parisi on Jul 4, 2011 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Note

Many San Jose fans and writers on Twitter disagree with the thoughts in this post. I just wanted to make clear that we promoted this post to spur conversation, not necessarily because we agree.

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by BReynolds on Jul 5, 2011 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

My personal thoughts are this

Heater dealt with some nagging injuries, and that slowed him a bit last year. As pointed out to me on Twitter, he scored 39 goals in year one with the Sharks. 39 is nothing to scoff at. I think blaming the slump on not being on the right side may be a bit simplistic.

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by BReynolds on Jul 5, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching that highlight reel from 0506, it seems that he scores just as many goals off of one timers as he does infront of the net getting rebounds. He’s right there to get those second chances and he puts them away. I’m sure there’s some truth to the opposite side winger, one timer scenario (hell, look at Stamkos, same thing, other side) but it isn’t everything.

Watching that reel did accomplish one thing though, and that is make me very excited for Heatley in a Wild jersey.

by Jonsey on Jul 5, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

If he can muster up 35-40 goals a year, I’ll be extatic. I can’t even remember the last time a Wild player cracked 30. Marian who?

by Jonsey on Jul 6, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see you being ecstatic this year

35 is easily within reach considering Koivu’s passing skills and the team’s desire to shoot the puck more.

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by Mark Parisi on Jul 7, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

From a San Jose Fan

I’m not gonna disagree with you by saying that McLellan could’ve used him in a different way on the powerplay and he could’ve scored more goals. But for the first year in San Jose and the first half of last year, Heatley DID play on the right wing. And in the playoffs, and during the season, he would get chance after chance after chance and miss the net almost every time. ESPECIALLY when he got one-time opportunities, or decided to take an hour to wind up for a slapshot. Blaming his “slump” on where the coaches put him on the ice (even though during 5 on 5 it sorta is your own decision of where you want to be on the ice) is wrong, especially since he is used to scoring 40-50 goals and you can’t blame a slump like that on any one thing, no matter what it is you blame it on (unless injury). I just think it was a lack of confidence. When you score 50-50-39-39-26 you begin to question yourself. He got moved to the second line. He was moved off the first powerplay unit. How could you not lose some confidence when that happens?
However, despite all this “slump” stuff, Heatley has become a much better player in the defensive zone, and I really saw his effort in the playoffs. Had it not been for the shots that just about always went high or wide, he could’ve had a great playoffs this year. If he just calms down his game and goes back to the basics, you guys are gonna have a sweet first line of Heatley-Koivu-Setoguchi……..and the NHL will fear the Wild.

P.S. Go sharks….

by Spencer Head on Jul 5, 2011 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

The NHL will fear the Wild

FINALLY!

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by JSLandry on Jul 5, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Twitter

This is what I got from one of the Sharks writers. Wanted to share the counterpoint.

completely bunk theory.
I like Heatley, and think he will rebound a bit. But he was slowed by injuries and demoted to the second line.
In fact, I remember a story a while back where Thornton and Heatley talked about chemistry, decided to line up that way.
They tried a bunch of different things. But Heatley two years ago was not Heatley of last year.
I’m just saying, if Heatley had a problem lining up where he was, or if that was the reason, it would have been fixed.
And I may be mistaken, but I’m pretty dang sure Marleau was on the left when they put them together.

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by BReynolds on Jul 5, 2011 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey guys – Ivano from Fear the Fin checking in here.

Can’t say I agree with anything written in that post. Also, link to the comment on Working the Corners would help. Judging by the length of it and the tone, it was written by a well known troll who likes to post things like this on all Sharks boards and forums, disagreeing with everybody and criticizing the leadership of the club all day long. Either way, let’s address the content.

First, if McLellan wasn’t using Heatley as he should be used, how did Heatley score 39 goals in his first season in San Jose? Also, how did he make Team Canada at the Olympics? He had a really hot start in San Jose, and Heatley/Marleau/Thornton line was easily the best line in the league at that time. They were impossible to stop, and when Canada was struggling in the first half of the tournament, it was the only line that looked alive.

Second, McLellan tried Heatley on all lines and on all positions. He was still using him on the top PP line last season, even when Heatley was put on the 2nd line in San Jose, next to Clowe and Couture. That line by the way was the most consistent line all season, and Heatley was one of the bigger reasons. That said, Sharks still had top 5 PP both seasons, even despite Heatley not braking 50+ goals mark.

In my view, the reason for the decline was nagging injuries. No idea if Heatley ever recovered after his groin injury last summer. 2009/10 season was really long for him with the Olympics and WCF appearance. Add that to injuries in 2010/11 and you got one beat up forward.

He is not getting any younger, so I think 50 goals seasons are past him. But I still expect him to crack 40, especially if he can fully recover this summer and if he can play on the top line. San Jose tried to roll three lines of offense and that’s why I think they put Heatley on the 2nd line. But playing next to Koivu would be better than playing next to Couture.

I’d be very excited about Heatley if I was Wild fan.

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by Ivano M on Jul 5, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you for the commentary.

However the Sharks might have used Heatley differently than Ottawa did, it was pretty obvious that Heatley was very effective that first season, and had great chemistry with Thorton and Marleau. Wild fans are used to what happens to players who are struggling with groin issues. Gaborik taught us all that, and Havlat suffered through a minor one his first season with the Wild which saw him start off ice cold and ineffective.

If he can get healthy, and works on his strength, conditioning, and skating, I do not see any reason why Heatley won’t be on the first line. Who else exactly is on it is yet to be seen. It’ll likely be Bouchard – Koivu – Heatley, which could be a dang good line. I like Heatley for 35 to 40 goals, if he and his linemates are healthy and click.

by Krotz the Wall on Jul 5, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not Setoguchi – Koivu – Heatley? Could be a good combo as well.

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by Ivano M on Jul 5, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that will be experimented with

during training camp, and if that works then keep it. But I think they want to spread out the scoring across at least the top 2 lines.

by nemo1107 on Jul 5, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeo said...

He’s looking at both combos and is very excited to experiment them. But I like Butch and Koivu with heatley and Seto with Cullen and Lats. Don’t know why, just do. Butch is a crazy good passer…

by eamon17 on Jul 5, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

though I wouldn’t be sad either way

by eamon17 on Jul 5, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two reasons, primarily...

The first being that Bouchard is an extremely gifted play maker, having an almost unique vision, that allows him to pass the puck in such a way to get the best shot for a blaster. Bouchard’s best years was on a line with Rolston. Bouchard would hold the puck and draw defenders, before lasering the puck directly into a perfect one-timer for Rolston. It was like a machine. Koivu is also a great passer, and has the ability to hold the puck down low, beating guys, and creating space out front. Bouchard and Koivu’s greatest skills will play directly to Heatley’s abilities.

Secondly, Setoguchi on the second line will give a better shot to two balanced scoring lines. Latendresse, who should be healthy and looking to lock that left wing scoring position down, is already not blazing fast, and really doesn’t play down low as much as he relies on his shot from along the boards and out front. Setoguchi, and his speed, will play well off of Lats and his power.

by Krotz the Wall on Jul 6, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

The funniest bit is that the person that posted this Fanshot is most definitely the troll you’re talking about (ip verification was done on that user during the playoffs). So it seems entirely likely that the poster is quoting themselves and saying “that guy really has a point”. That is the level of honesty you’re dealing with, so make sure you take that into account when reading this article.

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by Evilducks on Jul 5, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

I didn’t even think to look up the record of this guy. Thank you for pointing it out. I will keep a close eye on the account.

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by BReynolds on Jul 5, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The troll gets a bum wrap.

Beating him got me into the playoffs in the FtF fantasy league. So, y’know, he’s not all bad…

by Nick! on Jul 11, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

One more point – Sharks switched to a more defensive system last season. Not many people noticed – but Joe Thornton lead all league in takeaways last season. Heatley was also in top 5 among forwards in hits on the Sharks roster. Just like Washington, there’s been a dip in everyone’s offensive production.

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by Ivano M on Jul 5, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey wild fans

Howdy and greetings from the west coast!

As per this fan post, I know it was posted here to spark discussion but honestly between the DW bashing and the claims being made (while discounting injuries etc.), it’s recycled trash. This perspective is vastly a minority (in fact the first time I’ve heard this reasoning used to explain the slump) and pretty inaccurate as far as how Heater was played across his two seasons with the sharks.

Regardless Heater remains an top notch player and will no doubt be an asset to your organization. I’ll still be cheering for both him and especially Seto.. They’re both a ton of fun to watch and y’all are a lucky to have them.

by D Dawg on Jul 5, 2011 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

It's not a minority!

All 15 of the troll’s sockpuppets agree with him! That’s a healthy majority!

by Nick! on Jul 11, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

PMB

Doesn’t it make more sense to put PMB on the first line? Remember the career year the little dude had with Rolston one timing PMBs offerings?

by Pewterschmidt on Jul 5, 2011 3:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

2nd Line

Let Cullen center Glat and Gooch for the first 15 games. After Cullen runs out of gas let K Bro do the dirty work on the 2nd line.

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by BReynolds on Jul 5, 2011 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Greetings All...

I’ve followed HW for about six months now, and have decided to join in the fun. I post quite a bit on Russo’s stuff on ST. Anyways, I think the line of PMB-Koivu-Heatley makes the most sense for already stated reasons. PMB will net probably 12 goals all year but will have something like 55 assists. Koivu will have a blend of probably 20 goals and 50-60 assists, and Heater..well I personally think he will score 38 this season. The second line confuses me a bit. GLat needs someone to set him up. Havlat had that job. Is Cullen good enough at that? I think Brodziak would probably work better. He actually has developed into a wonderful two way player, and when he’s on he works as a second line center. Cullen is very, very inconsistent, but Cullen might have better eye sight.

by Nsjohn130 on Jul 7, 2011 3:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I think Cullen will do fine...

He seems to have good vision and playmaking ability. He just had a hard time working with Havlat cause they are both playmakers. He did not get much of an opportunity to work with Lats cause of the injuries. So I think Gooch and Lats will get the set ups from cullen. But if that doesn’t work, I think Brodz can step in there and do the job. Its fun to have options.

by eamon17 on Jul 7, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome

Make sure to visit early, and visit often.

Now… I think Cullen will get a crack at being the second line guy. It is why he was hired, and it really was a chemistry issue there, too. He never clicked real well with the ever changing second line, so he ended up being a role player. The contract he is on demands more, and hopefully he can give it.

That said, Brodziak has made a name for himself around the league as a guy who can be a shutdown, hard nosed center who can also perform offensively. I don’t know how long the Wild are going to be able to keep him around, to be honest. If Cullen can’t click with the second line, Brodziak is a worthy replacement.

I like the idea of Setoguchi and Heatley on the top line, but I also understand the need for balance. If G-Lat comes in healthy and performing, it will be interesting to see what the lines look like.

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by BReynolds on Jul 7, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I had to guess & I do

Gooch & Heater will play on the top PP unit with Koivu with Zids & Butch at the points. Let the slaughter begin. The only potential problem is all would be left hand shots except Zids. I expect to see a lot of backdoor goals & one timers. Full strength we should spread the wealth.

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by FightingWild on Jul 7, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Injury and playstyle change.

That’s pretty much all it was that caused his less-than stellar year. That and probably just plain old bad luck (as in: All players have off-years occasionally).

Odds are he’ll rebound. I’m going to miss him, but I’ll be honest when I say I won’t miss him being healthy ALL YEAR, and then getting injured RIGHT AT THE PLAYOFFS! Seriously, if you’re going to get hurt, have the common courtesy to do it before the all-star break! GOSH!

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