Minnesota Wild Reader Top 20 Prospects: Sweet Sixteen
As we wind our way to twenty, several of the players remaining are not going to make the cut. Will any of them be high level picks from the Fletcher era? Will those left behind all be late round picks, or left over from the HWSRN regime? With Brett Bulmer coming in at 15, there are only five spots left.
Who will come in at 16?
Our list thus far:
1. Mikael Granlund
2. Charlie Coyle
3. Jason Zucker
4. Marco Scandella
5. Jonas Brodin
6. Zack Phillips
7. Matt Hackett
8. Jared Spurgeon
9. Johan Larsson
10. Casey Wellman
11. Colton Gillies
12. Darcy Kuemper
13. Justin Falk (tiebreaker)
14. Tyler Cuma
15. Brett Bulmer
As always, bios and stats... after the jump.
We are using using Dan's definition of prospect from last year:
Requirements for rookies:
*Under the age of 27
**Has played less than 53 NHL Games (some exceptions apply e.g Gillies)
***Has played less than 4 years of pro hockey
Still in the Game:
Cody Almond
We need to add into the mix some of the guys that have been around awhile. Almond was the number eight prospect according to Dan last December. Is he still there? Higher? Lower? It always seems that Almond is just on the edge of making his mark in the NHL, only to be sent back to Houston yet again. Where he fits in the lineup is still tough to predict. He strikes me as a Kyle Brodziak type player, that fits a bit everywhere, and not completely anywhere. He may not be the next coming, but he sure needs to get an extended sniff. And soon.
Mario Lucia
Lucia was the sweet, hometown story from the draft. The Wild trade up to get a second round pick, then draft not only a Minnesotan, but the son of the coach of the University of Minnesota's hockey program. It's so so sweet it could be made by Hersheys, and so corny that Cargill wants a cut. Still, Lucia wasn't picked because he is a hometown boy. He was picked because he was a great value at the 60th pick, and the Wild saw that value. Second round picks are a favorite of Chuck Fletcher, and the Wild have had some success in the second round in the past. Where will Mario end up in the franchise? Who knows. He has a long time to develop, so it may take awhile to know. He has to be considered in the top twenty, being a second round pick, but don't expect to see him in green anytime soon.
Erik Haula
Who in their right mind considers a seventh round pick to be a potential top 20 prospect? Well, when he shows the promise that Haula does, we do. He was playing on the top line for the Golden Gophers last year after having strong success in Omaha in the USHL (thank you to @Big_Weiss for clarification here). Haula may still be a long shot, but the odds are starting to look better and better that he has a real shot at some NHL time. Still a ton of work to do, but the kid has the work ethic to do it.
Nate Prosser
Time to throw another d-man into the mix. The Elk River, MN native and Stifler look alike, Prosser has the goods. A college free agent signing, Prosser was an anchor for the Aeros last year, and Mike Yeo has a ton of faith in him, as does Chuck Fletcher. Don't be surprised to see Prosser as the first call up for any injuries on the blue line. He is not an offensive stud, but he isn't Martin Skoula, so he has that going for him. With a young defensive corps, Prosser is near the top of the list. DOn't discount this kid too quickly.
Jarod Palmer
Yet another Minnesota native, and yet another college free agent signing. Palmer put up 28 points in his first pro season, to go with 64 PIMs. He is a physical player with a nose for the net, and someone who could be an exciting prospect if his development curve continues. He has a log jam in front of him, so if he wants to crack the big squad, he will have to differentiate himself, but that isn't impossible. He has the attitude, and the ethic to do it. Despite the stats above, he is a forward... not a d-man. He is also from Fridley, not Fredley.
Matt Kassian
The Aeros enforcer has proven himself a mighty opponent in the AHL. He may have a tough time cracking the roster unless things go in a route in which the Wild are being beaten up night after night, or until Kassian improves his all around game a bit more. His toughness and grit are second to none, but with the style of team Chuck Fletcher looks to be building, Kassian doesn't look to crack the NHL any time soon. Which is too bad, because he really is a good hockey player, and great guy.
Nick Seeler
The Wild's fifth round draft pick in this year's draft is an unknown quantity at this point. Drafting players straight out of high school is always a bit of a risk, but Seeler did well in his senior year, putting up 43 points (9G, 34A), with 48 PIMs in 28 games. He has tasted success, winning two state championships in his tenure at Eden Prairie High School. A winning attitude is always welcome in prospects, and hopefully that tradition continues as he heads to the USHL for further development.
Carson McMillan
McMillan is another of the Wild prospects that would likely make a solid third or fourth line grinder if and when he makes it to the NHL. He is big enough, at 6' 2", 190lbs, and he isn't afraid to throw his weight around when needed, as is evident by his 70+ PIMs in his last five seasons. He isn't blowing the doors off, but he is most certainly getting the job done. Given a chance to be a role player, McMillan would excel.
Kristopher Foucault
A mid round pick in 2009, Foucault has been a teammate of McMillan before, and will now be again, and is headed into his first full pro season with the Aeros. He is at about the same level of development as McMillan, so may be just a shade ahead of him. He put up a reasonable 48 points (25G, 23A) with the Hitmen last year, so his offensive production is not his strong area. His consistency in in question, as he can be streaky with both production and "hockey sense." He needs some time, but could still work out just fine.
Joel Broda
Broda came to the Wild during last year's development camp, impressed, and scored a contract with the organization. In his first year in Houston, he was a bit of a disappointment, and spent as much time in ECHL Bakersfield as he did with the AHL affiliate. When the Caps did not sign him, Wild fans were more than happy to see him in development with the Wild, and fans had high hopes. At this point, they need to be tempered until he turns on the jets a bit.
Anthony Hamburg
I know what most of you are saying right now. Who? Hamburg is another prospect spending some time in the USHL, building up his bulk, and then likely headed for the college game. He was a seventh round pick, so even if he doesn't work out, he is not a huge loss. He has had reasonable success with 20 points in 31 games in Omaha, but again, nothing spectacular. Long term project, zero risk.
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Prosser isn't an option...
But he should be, and he’d be my pick.
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Maybe voting for Bulmer again would be counted as a vote for Prosser.
Or, Bryan is doing it wrong again. :-P
by Krotz the Wall on Sep 13, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
and I should mention...
Prosser is also my pick.
by Krotz the Wall on Sep 13, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Prosser
’Nuff said.
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Prosser as well
Unashamed Alex Burrows Fanboy, MN Wild Lover, and believer in the FLA Cats Blueprint
Dammit. Fixing it. Sorry all.
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I guess I deleted the wrong name. Was pretty sure I didn’t, but hey… I’ll take the blame.
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Voted for Prosser
No one left on the list besides Prosser has any shot of making the Wild.
And I know I brought this up before, but seriously, Lucia leading again? Let your homerism go. Your sunny optimistic view of the world, while enlightening, is not a real representation of how things are. Just because Lucia was selected in the 2nd round does not mean he is a “top prospect”. It means he’s a high draft pick. He is seriously a project, not a guaranteed NHL player. He has a very LONG way to go before he could even be truly considered a top prospect.
Lucia was leading because the poll was f’d up and didn’t have Prosser on it. Our fault.
As for none of the other guys making the team, I think Cody Almond has a very good chance to be an NHLer, especially in the 3/4 line role. He is big, he is strong, and once developed, could play a game very similar to Nystrom’s.
I also think Palmer has a good chance, with some development for a bottom six forward role, maybe even a a middle six. Definitely not top 3, but still a good player.
Lucia and Haula are long term projects, but Haula is centering the top line at the U of M, so that is pretty good. Who knows what he could be with four years of college under his belt.
The rest of the guys are way long shots, but still could be role players and injury call ups.
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Agree with Almond. I see him as a replacement for Brodziak if the Wild choose not to bring Kyle back. I should have qualified the statement as “this season”, which is part of how I judge the prospects. If they’re not ready to jump into the NHL and start playing, how can they be considered top prospects over guys that are ready. Obviously, not the only criteria I have, but one of them nonetheless.
I think Lucia deserves to be on the top 20
But definitely not after Prosser or Almond.
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So you think Lucia should be taken before Prosser or Almond?
by JDesthubert on Sep 13, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinking he missed an "until" before that after.
by Krotz the Wall on Sep 13, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Certainly...
Lucia is a year out, at best, from even joining a college team, probably 4, optimistically, before he is even considered for the Aeros. He’s a long way off from being considered anything other than just a simple prospect at this point. I would not be at all surprised if the Wild face an issue of trying to sign him or let him become a college free agent because more than 4 years will pass since his draft before he turns pro.
by Krotz the Wall on Sep 13, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops.
Meant before. Duh.
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by Georgie Fruit on Sep 13, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I dig. I’m actually curious, though, as to why you believe that Lucia should be listed when the vast majority of his competitive hockey has been done at the high school level.
And please don’t say, “He was a 2nd-round pick”. That’s just a draft position. I will simply respond with, “James Sheppard was a 1st-round pick. Pavel Datsyuk was a 6th-round pick. Who was more worthy of actually being in the top 30?” Plus, he was 60th (last pick of the round), which means he was marginally better than the guy at 61 who is in the 3rd round.
That's fine to say that.
What I think gives Lucia consideration in the next couple of spots is total faith in Fletcher. Fletcher traded up for the guy he wanted at the end of the second round in Lucia, just like he did with Zucker. Fletcher doesn’t like trading up much (“Players just fall to you”), so I don’t think he would have traded up 10 spots if he didn’t think Lucia didn’t have the ability to become a top prospect down the road.
I agree that he’s a long way away, yes. He’s about 4 years away, and thus he’s a project. But until Fletcher and Flahr give me a reason not to, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially concerning the draft.
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by Georgie Fruit on Sep 13, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s good to believe in Fletcher, but do keep in mind this is the guy who traded to acquire Cam Barker and Chuck Kobasew. I’m not saying this draft pick was a disaster, but it is possible for Fletcher to make mistakes. As the cliche goes, he’s only human.
Also, not every player the Wild draft will automatically make the NHL. I do find very unusual that no matter who’s drafted, just about everyone on this site is automatically convinced that player will be a top-6 forward or a top-4 defensman for the Wild. It’s okay if they miss in the draft considering that most picks are misses in the draft. Every draft, no matter the sport, is a total crapshoot.
I do find very unusual that no matter who’s drafted, just about everyone on this site is automatically convinced that player will be a top-6 forward or a top-4 defensman for the Wild.
This is a bit of truth everyone needs to read again. I am surprised Granlund held onto the top spot this year. Usually the new first rounder goes right to the top, and it irritates me.
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Well, there are two things that happened this year to mitigated that.
First was that ridiculous WC goal that Granlund scored that everyone, and i do mean everyone has seen something about. That, and his great play to help his team win the Finnish league this year and entire WC, seriously raised his profile this year. That, and the Wild drafted a 17 year old Swedish defender that most had never really heard about until the draft. Had that pick been Sven or another high potential offensive player, he probably would have ranked out as #2.
by Krotz the Wall on Sep 14, 2011 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions
And I mean,
Lucia isn’t a slouch in scout’s eyes. CSS had him 34th among NA skaters, International Scouting Services had him 46th overall, TSN had him 45th overall, The Hockey News had him 26th, and Hockey Wilderness had him 44th.
“Pretty good skater with strong balance and pro size, sees the ice well and has some finish. Good shot and a high hockey IQ, will try to fight through traffic with the puck. Good size and range.”
That sounds like a guy who’s a little more than just a Minnesotan. Fletcher’s faith and the scouting reports say to me that he absolutely merits consideration this late in the game, despite his project status.
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by Georgie Fruit on Sep 13, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
While that is true, many of those things were also said about his brother, Tony, especially the “high hockey IQ”. Tony was also supposed to have NHL size and skating, but that is not true now.
I believe that here in Minnesota, we tend to overrate Minnesota players. Being totally fair, Lucia has played high school teams. There are a plethora of great high school players from this state that didn’t do a whole lot past high school. It’s very easy to be a big fish in a small pond, but much harder to duplicate at the next level. Even looking at Mr. Hockey Winners, very few had steady NHL careers. In fact, most had pretty pedestrian college careers.
I think it’s way too early to even project Mario Lucia, let alone consider him a top prospect.
Is 16th to 20th a top prospect?
In any given year, those are either the projects with potential or guys that are going to be Jed Ortmeyer in 5 years and likely to fall off prospect lists completley next year. Lucia seems to fit in fine with the first part of that, and in the next year he will either show something to move up or not and fall off.
Ok, but I don’t expect answers about Lucia until at least 3 years out. That’s why he’s a project. It’s not a quick fix that can be done in one year. His game is going to need a couple years of refining. Once again, his top competition was high school hockey. We in Minnesota place a lot of value in that, but it’s not the top of the competitive food chain. One year is a short amount of time to reevaluate a project.
And, if you need one more year to at least figure out where he falls, then he probably shouldn’t garner any type of consideration for “top prospect” considering you don’t even know what he is.
by JDesthubert on Sep 14, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, I think Justin Fontaine at least deserves to be listed
While I believe he’ll end up as an AHL player like Jon DiSalvatore, at least he’s had real NCAA experience, had over a point-per-game average in college, won a national championship, and played on the top line in college hockey last season. That’s more than I can say about Lucia, Haula, Seeler, Broda, and a host of other prospects.
Re: Lucia
And now we know why this front office makes it a priority to take a MN kid in the draft. Right or wrong fans eat it up.
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