Hard Lessons For Wild Prospect on Twitter
Everyone wants their favorite athletes on Twitter. Social media gives the average fan a level of access to famous people that they didn't have even five years ago. Using it to your advantage can create a following powerful enough to change the trajectory of your career. Using it poorly? Makes you a punch line.
The list of examples of times this relationship has gone horribly wrong continues to grow. Dan Ellis learned his lesson and dropped social media altogether. Paul Bissonette left Twitter, then came back. The examples in other sports is even longer than with hockey players. Things said in the privacy of their home now are digested publicly. The private self and the online self are no longer separate entities.
For Wild fans, the controversy has stayed at an arms reach, or been so minor it didn't really register on the radar. Until last night. Aeros forward, and University of Minnesota-Duluth standout Justin Fontaine used some, shall we say, regrettable language while chirping back and forth with teammates about the Grammy awards.
We'll keep the discussion of language after the jump. Be warned, this is not suitable for work, and will very likely offend people.
Just the Facts
The Aeros players have gone head long into Twitter, putting some rather entertaining back and forth out in public for fans to see. It gives you a look inside the personality, and the relationships among the players. Congratulations on call ups, fare thee well's for traded player, fun and games on road trips. All the things fans want to see and never used to get.
Last night, while watching the Grammys, there was this exchange:
To which Fontaine responded, and prompty deleted, but lives on due to a retweet by Aeros captain John DiSalvatore.
Fontaine then issued an apology:
After which fans began to get involved, tweeting out the information and responding in support and against. Some tweets got responses from the players. Like this one:
There is the factual basis for your consumption.
The Response
Obviously, the language is harsh. Using the term "faggot" is not an acceptable practice in today's world. Sure, people still use it. I have no illusions that hockey players are above its use, and have a feeling it is rather rampant in that particular subset. That does not forgive its usage, nor does it make it any more acceptable. The fact that Fontaine apologized means he knows what he did was wrong.
The rhetorical questions are easy to come up with. What if it were a racial slur? What if he had made an inappropriate comment about women? What about this, what about that. The fact remains, he used a slur, and just because he deleted it and apologized does not make it go away.
To me, the apology lacks understanding of the real problem at hand. "It came out wrong." What else could that mean? "It was a roommate battle, nothing more." Actually, it is a great deal more. The words in the apology show that Fontaine does not fully grasp the depth of the insult that word carries with it.
A clever play on words turns into a nightmare when those words are not chosen carefully. For example... Foo Fuckers would even have passed without much fanfare.
Other Thoughts
- The use of the slur is bad. The fact that a teammate retweeted it doubly bad, and proves the rampancy with which that word likely passes in conversation without them even noticing. It's no big deal, right? Just another word. Retweet without consequence. The final nail in the coffin? The captain of the team retweeted it. The bastion of leadership, the last line of defense of rationality and forethought. Failure on all accounts.
- Read the last tweet above. Fel0096 is a great person, and so I say all of this with the utmost respect, but that's not sarcasm. I eat, sleep, breathe, and live sarcasm. Look at my profile picture for cripe's sake. Sarcasm is my main mode of communication. Using this word does not work with sarcasm. The use of this word negates your ability to claim sarcasm.
- Also in that last tweet, DiSalvatore says "we mean no disrespect and want to keep it clean and fun." Using one of the most disrespectful words in the English language is not a great way to show your desire to avoid disrespect. To put that into the sarcasm font - Yeah. Sure you didn't mean any disrespect. It closes with "nothingpersonal." Let's contact some gay men and see if they want to accept the "nothing personal" line, shall we? That's a pretty lame way to apologize. But hey... nothing personal.
The Fallout
What the fallout will be will play out throughout the day. More than likely, it will be done behind the scenes. If I had to guess, the level of usage of Twitter by Wild players and prospects is about to undergo a serious cutback. It's disappointing, because the level of interaction with these players was priceless.
The problem is, when you are a pro athlete, you are no longer representing only yourself. As frustrating as that may be, it is the truth. This type of language gives the entire Wild organization a black eye, especially if there is no recourse. If Fontaine had called an opponent that word, he would be suspended. Using it is a punishable offense by the powers that be, even in the "heat of battle."
Outside the rink, in a public forum, where every one in the world has access? You can bet that doesn't go without a lesson being taught. Social media is a wonderful creation. It is also a double edged sword. Access is access, and the players at all levels need to know that.
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I don’t think the “hey guys, we don’t say things like that anymore” message has quite gotten into the locker rooms yet. Based on everything Bourne has written, it’s extremely pervasive, but I’m glad folks chimed in and took Fonz to task for it.
I saw it and went “Uh oh”…
Honestly though, I hope the team is chill enough to let the voice of fans on Twitter be the litmus test for what flies and what doesn’t, vs. knee-jerking and making a bunch of arbitrary rules. The guys have been on very good, entertaining behavior thus far and this should ultimately just be a blip on the radar.
Unless you’re very crafty, almost everybody oversteps a line or two here and there. You learn and you move on a little smarter.
Even if they don’t really seem to see the big deal (and I agree, it doesn’t appear they do), if they’ve learned not to perpetuate the language publicly, that’s a solid start.
I’m more concerned at this point that they’re so anti-Foo Fighters. WTF, guys?
well said
It’s an unfortunate mistake. That word has many different meanings when friends are talking amongst each other(see the South Park harley riders episode), but this is a good reminder of the true meaning that is sometimes forgotten and that the word should not be used. I could see a reason for anger if he meant it in the worst form.
As I wrote this, I was more concerned with what you were going to think about it than what the Wild or the players would. Is that wrong?
I thought about not publishing it, thought about not even writing it. Then I remembered I wrote about it when Wayne Simmonds said it on the ice, and thought, “OK, you’ll go after him, but not a Wild guy? That would be weak.” I realy hope there is not a major crack down, but my guess is there eventually will be. PR teams want control of the message, and right now they don’t have that.
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Mind-boggling
Who the hell hates the Foo Fighters???
and to go THIS far in doing so?
Youre entitled to your opinion but wow. If he thinks the Foos are faggots, id love to see this kids iTunes.
by MyNameIsJohnnyMotto on Feb 14, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions
Bad on you, Fonzi.
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Yes its bad
and yes, he should get some flame for it, which he is.
so bad bad Fontaine. It is a word that isn’t acceptable nowadays but at the same time, doesn’t necessarily project any hatred towards one group or another. its just a word thats still in the process of being weeded out of society’s vocabulary.
if he made a blatant comment that was filled with personal bias such as Uptown Hockey (EX-agency for Andrew Brunette), then we have a big problem.
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proves the rampancy with which that word likely passes in conversation without them even noticing
This. In fact, I was initially thinking ‘’How the fuck can Fontaine not like the Foo Fighters? They’re GODS’’. It’s only a while after that I realized he had just used a bad slur. It’s not only that word, but a whole lot of words that people use with their friends that just go unnoticed.
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Yep
That and the word “retard” are in the first stages of being withdrawn from normal conversations. I have noticed (being a middle school teacher) that the words are being used Less frequently than when I was that age. But they are still pretty prevalent. I have to remind the kids not use them. They use the word “retarded” more frequently.
Also, some people just don’t get it. I was in a sitting next to some guy at a bar and he was rehashing a story that happened to him a week ago. And he said, “Man, that guy is such a nigger.” And I think he could tell by my facial expression that I was pretty offended cause he immediately got a little sheepish and said that he wasn’t a racist. Then proceded to explain to his friend that there are black people and their are niggers. He said he doesn’t mind black people, and went into a little comment about how he has black friend, but that he hated niggers. And I pointed out to him that he could just easily use the word “asshole” and it would put the same context that he wanted. And the word “nigger” should never be used in any context. But he did not seem to get the concept. Guess that’s what happens when you move to the South. It was pretty eye-openning.
I hope the fallout doesn't go too far.
The Aeros have been really fun to follow on Twitter and I hope they all aren’t required to stop what they’re doing. Maybe a meeting with a PR guy for any of them with an account would be enough to remind them that social media requires a different standard than a private conversation.
I also saw the “R” word in a tweet last night – that’s another word that can’t leave society’s vocabulary soon enough.
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by minnesotagirl71 on Feb 13, 2012 12:29 PM CST reply actions
"R" word
totally agree. Its going to be a while, but I see a little improvement in getting these words out of society’s vocab. The “R” word seems to be a little behind the “F” word so far. IMO
Hey!
That is feces defamation right there! What, too soon?
by Krotz the Wall on Feb 13, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
At least he didn't say sh...
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What would the PC term be?
excrement? poop? poo-poo? dukey? duece? number 2? feces?
Hmm... let's think.
I’ve always been partial to the medieval/renaissance term… Night Soil. So poetic.
Or in the positive PC term style (like Janitor is now Custodial Engineer):
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by Krotz the Wall on Feb 13, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Night Soil
Love it. So sophisticated. How is it used in a sentence? “I must now go lay some night soil”
I just took a big night soil
This tastes like night soil, I night soiled myself… possibilities are endless.
I also like Backside Chocolate/Fudge, … and Muddy Essence
Whoa, wait, I like the TERMS, not, you know…sigh.
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As a person who is, at least passingly, interested in how languages change and develop over time,
words like these are interesting to track. “Retarded” and “Fag” were such common words threaded throughout language when I was a kid to the point that they mostly weren’t being used in any specific connotation other than a general, non-swear word insult. Much like terms from a another generation older “Indian giver” (to give a gift and then take it back), “Jewed” (to aggressively bargin and negotiate to get a lower price… my in-laws just used that last weekend when talking about getting a caterer to lower their price… just glad my 5 and 4 year old weren’t in the room), “Gypped” (to get taken in a deal). I don’t hear the kids of today using those terms, though I did hear them when I was a kid. People my parents age do occasionally still use those terms, though no where near as much as 30 years ago.
It’s also interesting to study how words come to take on such a charged and negative connotation within a language.
by Krotz the Wall on Feb 13, 2012 12:52 PM CST reply actions
I really think
that many people have heard certain words used so often as a general, non-swear word that they don’t even know the origins of the word. They have no clue that it’s insulting to people. I’m not making excuses for them. If they don’t know the meaning of a word, they shouldn’t use it.
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by minnesotagirl71 on Feb 13, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair,
Most of the words that are offensive are offensive because of a different meaning to the word that what it originally had, or what it has locally. It’s the reason why words like this often take a generation or more to be mostly removed from conversational language. It’s an education thing… or in many cases, a concentrated effort to not teach our kids words or usages as if they are acceptable.
by Krotz the Wall on Feb 13, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Devils advocate alert
From what I understand Foo Fighters is some sort of term for UFO hunters in England (govt or private, not sure). And since “fag” is a british word for cigarette, perhaps he was talking about smokers chasing UFO’s!? I dunno, I think people get too hung up on things like this. And to expect some professional apology drafted by some PR person is a bit much don’t you think? He apologized, a lot of people need time to get used to social networks and the vast reach they provide. Chances are any one of us on twitter have had a moment not unlike this, difference is we are not being watched as heavily but I know i’ve sure been called out by randoms for some of the questionable tweets i’ve sent out.
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by The Nooge on Feb 13, 2012 1:19 PM CST via Android app reply actions
And I think
that people far too often don’t take control of what they say. And in failing to do this, they help create an environment of insensitivity. It’s in environments like this that hate and abuse can grow.
And, just because you aren’t being ‘as watched’ as these players, doesn’t mean that your words don’t have an effect on others. Being a parent of three kids, I can tell you that words have a way of prying into kids and sticking with them. Maybe more of us should take a little more responsibility for what we say. There might not be a lot of people who will take us to task for the random, insensitive things we say, but I can promise you that people ARE listening, and sadly some of them are learning.
by Krotz the Wall on Feb 13, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Well said. A
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by BReynolds on Feb 13, 2012 7:29 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I’m not going to shield my kids from sensitive language. Teach and they understand, like you said, they are listening. Ultimately, its just a word, and their are a lot of words out there. People give them power. educate your kids, don’t teach them to fear…
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by The Nooge on Feb 14, 2012 10:46 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Educating them is fine
I believe Krotz was talking about using the language in front of kids. Cause children look up to you and will repeat. Not making your kids walk around with earplugs. If they hear it, it is a good idea to educate them on why it is wrong. But if you are using the same language around them, then any teaching will be negated. Kids model themselves after their parents. Whether they want to or not.
Wow... what an intentional misreading of what I wrote.
Teaching kids that certain words are bad is fine. What I was saying is that when you use words, any words, kids hear you and they use those words too. If you happen to be using derogatory and/or profane language, they will too. It’s good to be aware to our words have affect. Your defense that words could have a lot of definitions is a weak play at not actually educating people and just ignoring what you don’t like.
Of course, you go right ahead and teach your kids words like ‘fag’ by using them casually, and then turning to them and telling them that they ’shouldn’t really say something like that… at least where people can hear you.’ I’m sure that will work out.
by Krotz the Wall on Feb 14, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t want a PR crafted apology. I would, however, like one that shows he understands why it was wrong.
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by BReynolds on Feb 13, 2012 7:26 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
One huge thing....
anything you say will offend someone. So are we supposed to say nothing in fear of offending someone? I will talk how I want. I am not going to us PC just so I dont piss someone off. I say whats on my mind. I know some people wont like that, some people will, but I have come to understand that people have extremely thin skin. now, on the flip side of that, I dont intentionally use derogatory language in everyday speech.
One thing I wish people would realize is that some people are going to say things that will be offensive. Just ignore it. I have been called many things. When you let something affect you, its like blood in the water. the sharks will swarm.
And I know I am going to take heat for this post…
Well, no one can stop you from saying what you want to say
The problem is Fontaine, a professional hockey player, said it on a social media outlet for everyone to see. He can’t do that in the position he’s in.
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No one said you had to not say what is on your mind. However, the freedom to say what you want does not come with freedom from consequences for having said it.
What Fontaine did was use a slur against an entire group of people to belittle a band. if that is acceptable to you, you may want to find someone to filter your words, because eventually the bigotry is going to come out at the wrong time.
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by BReynolds on Feb 13, 2012 7:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
It is not acceptable.
plain and simple.
However, There are several meanings to different words, and people need to keep that in mind. Yes, it was 99% meant to be used in a derogatory manor by the way it was stated, and since Fontaine apologized, I guess we really have our answer as to what was meant.
And what you need to remember
is that words have power and they have meaning. Just because a person might not use a derogatory word in the most derogatory way or intent does not mean they get excused for using that word. It might speak a bit toward who they are, but that does not allow them to justify being insensitive or simply ignorant. It is impossible to be living in North America this day and age and not know that the word ‘faggot’ is considered a derogatory slur. In my opinion if you take the effort to actually type out the word in a Tweet, you’ve had every chance to filter that word out. It’s just bad conduct, and it’s a mistake that just shouldn’t happen to people who probably have a social media policy as part of their workplace.
by Krotz the Wall on Feb 14, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
99% of the time? Please provide an example of the other 1%.
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What a Dumbass.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 14, 2012 6:33 AM CST reply actions
This.
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by nathaneide on Feb 14, 2012 7:33 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
As JB Spiso would say… Hooah.
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