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Wilderness Walk for 2-13-2012

Update - 11:30AM: Apparently, this didn't want to auto post as instructed, so here are your late headlines.

Off day fun today. Not much to talk about, unless you count the post from earlier this AM, but who wants to dwell on that?

Let's talk about... stats. Just for a second. Seeing some gloating start to creep in from those "I told you so" types. The Wild crashed and burned, just like the predicted. They should be proud, right? I still don't see it that way. They say the numbers told them the Wild would crash and burn. We said if they play the system, there is no reason they should.

They stopped playing the system. They crashed and burned.

Did the numbers change much? Nope. Did the Wild suddenly realize their Corsi and Fenwick were poor and start gripping the stick a little too much? Nope. Turns out, they don't even use those numbers. The predictors that said they would crash and burn were two months behind schedule. They also never said it would be this bad.

As of right now, I see tweets aimed at the HW account RTing things said in November and mocking the words. We feel no differently now than we did then. The numbers told us nothing. The team quit, and failed. The numbers didn't change, and the situation did, so I still see no reason to believe they predicted anything.

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I think we deserve some crap for how cocky we were

but I do agree that it has nothing to do with “advanced stats/corsi/fenwick”.

I think we would gladly do the same to Edmonton if they were in first place of the division and fell all the way to 14th in the West. If.

by y2jayjk on Feb 13, 2012 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

Well, my point was that they still haven’t convinced anyone their numbers are worth a damn. I would mock the Oilers even if they went from 14th to 1st.

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by BReynolds on Feb 13, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

According to my numbers....

If you score more goals than the other team, you win the game.

Patent pending.

by y2jayjk on Feb 13, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The guys at Copper and Blue calling me an ignorant dumbass were way cockier than we were though.

We weren’t even cocky for that matter, we were happy. We weren’t going around saying ‘’Our team is better than yours’’, we were just happy the Wild were finally doing good.

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by JSLandry on Feb 13, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Scandella

Whom does Scandella replace on the blue line, ya think? Lundin? Zidlicky? Or do they play musical chairs again, dress Falk and have Zanon sit this one out?

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 13, 2012 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

So...we have eight healthy defensemen, right?

Seeing as we had seven healthy blueliners before we recalled Scandella, I smell a trade coming. Either Zidlicky, Lundin or Zanon will be gone by the trade deadline and I think the best bet would be Zidlicky.

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by wild4life on Feb 13, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Per Russo

“Lundin, Falk scratched tomorrow, Scandella in, Foucault to make NHL debut”

by SnowMan218 on Feb 13, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Why on earth is Zidlicky still in Iron Range Red?

We haven’t won since he’s been back in the lineup! I’m not saying he’s solely responsible but get a clue, Mike and Chuck! At least with Foucault I’ll have another Wild rookie card to chase and, with the way the Wild have been playing, I’ll be able to get it dirt cheap.

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by wild4life on Feb 13, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, just saw that. WTF! By now, Lundin’s gotta be thinking “Why did I sign with this team?!” Can’t be too good for his confidence … the guy’s been scratched for a string of games, gets put in the lineup only because Stoner’s injured, plays a decent game on his return, and is then back in the pressbox.

Apparently, complaining to the press has its rewards.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 13, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

*sigh*

Why is Lundin sitting in the press box again? Just because Zidlicky had ONE game where he wasn’t a train wreck on defense and a dead fish on offense?

by Dave71120 on Feb 13, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

And just when I was beginning to hope...

that Scandella coming back would mean that we would never have to see Zidlicky in a Wild game sweater again. grumble, grumble, phhht, phhht!!

by WildEast on Feb 13, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting

I kinda feel bad for Lundin, it’s not like he’s played horribly. He got hurt at the beginning of the season which definitely pushed him way down on the depth chart. He gets scratched consistently, takes it like a professional (i.e. not complaining publicly), and watches guys who do complain publicly (Zids especially, and Zanon a little) get put in ahead of him.

Is Foucault gonna be on the 2nd line? Just wondering, why hasn’t Justin Fontaine gotten the call? He is the 2nd leading scorer on the Aeros.

by J.A.Berty1330 on Feb 13, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

while right now it’s probably because he was naughty. I don’t know that much about him, but maybe they feel his defensive game needs more work.

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by Chris Winner on Feb 14, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

drat, lets try well instead of while

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by Chris Winner on Feb 14, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

If I weren't lazy

I’d go through and look at the Corsi/Fenwick numbers until Dec 1 compared to post-Dec 1. But … I’m lazy.

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by nathaneide on Feb 13, 2012 1:06 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Nerd

even if you are a lazy nerd.

by Krotz the Wall on Feb 13, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we need to cool the trade talks.

My bet is nothing happens at all for the Wild at the deadline, maybe some players get moved this summer. I still think any expiring contracts should be moved if they can be, but I think Fletch disagrees with me there.

by cgp711 on Feb 13, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

NO! NEVER!!!

Sell them all. Burn the X down. Shoot Mikko in the face. Panic…Anarchy…LOUD NOISES!!!!!

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by JDesthubert on Feb 13, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe they can move the team to Dallas. I heard that they were interested in having an NHL team…

by eamon17 on Feb 13, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot to add “Strip the ‘C’ off Mikko Koivu”.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 13, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Think that was implied

with Shoot Mikko in the face. Though I suppose he could still have the “C” on his lifeless corpse…

by eamon17 on Feb 13, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd say

that one is ripe for jumping on, if some Mikko-hater was so inclined. Since I’m not, I will let it lie.

by WildEast on Feb 13, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you forgot one...

I think WAR CRIMES should be inserted between anarchy and loud noises.

by wildfansec108row11 on Feb 13, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

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