Minnesota Wild at the Deadline: Buyers or Sellers?
With the deadline looming, and fans getting antsy, it is time to begin our discussion of what might happen this year. We'll have further discussion as we get closer, but for now, we address the biggest question.
Are the Wild buyers or sellers.
The belief in the NHL, and surrounding the NHL, is that no team is ever out of the playoff race. Don't tell Columbus, but with the charity point and three point games, there are always a glut of teams just a few points from the playoff race. In the West, four points often separates the number eight team from the number twelve team. This gives teams a false sense of hope, and is the classic catch 22.
If a team is just four points outside the bubble, the GM sells, then the team somehow makes the playoffs and loses in the first round, the GM looks like an idiot. If the team is four points out, the GM buys thinking he will push his team, and the flop, the GM looks like an idiot. The safe bet is always to simply stand pat. And look like an idiot.
It has been a lifetime since the Wild were true buyers or sellers at the deadline. And when they were, they bought... Chris Simon. What happens this year? After the jump.
Why the Wild Should BuyThe Wild are buyers for the right player at the right price. The deadline rarely results in that combination, generally resulting in overpayment for an aging player with no hope of helping anyone. Demands for players like Tuomo Ruutu should be enough for fans to accept this is not a buyer's market.
That said, if a Rick Nash or Bobby Ryan might be available for a couple of the guys not name Mikael Granlund, Chuck Fletcher has to at least entertain the idea. There are strong doubts about the viability of those options, yet if they exist, there is reason to buy. If they aren't, it would be tough to convince anyone that giving up prospects or picks for an expiring contract is worth it.
Buying would appease the fans calling for a move. It also sends a message to the team that Fletcher wants to help them. The problem is, they haven't given him any reason to help them. If it's me, I don't risk my career to help this group. Not a chance in hell I give up the hard work I have done to secure the future in order to add to a group that has shown the backbone of a crawfish.
If it is about shutting people up, then we have crossed a bridge we can't go back over.
Why the Wild Should Sell
The reasons here are more difficult to justify. The fact of the matter is, reality says they should sell. Even if they make the playoffs, they have a snow ball's chance in hell of being a true contender. To follow the thinking of Brian Burke, they aren't paid to make the first round and lose. If they aren't serious about the playoffs, they need to reassess and look to the future.
The prospect pool has grown, but it is not full by any means. You can see what happens when a prospect pool is non-existent, and what happens when it thin. More picks are needed to fill in behind the current crop. Trading picks for players who won't be around is ludicrous. Rick Nash isn't coming here. Bobby Ryan is too expensive.
It is time for the Wild to be real about the situation and consider selling for prospects or picks. Even if first or second round picks aren't available (they are always available at the deadline), loading up on mid round picks can be packaged to move up.
It may be painful, but the smart move is to sell, and sell hard. The players have to accept the situation they have created. They are not going to win the Cup, and the Playoffs are a pipe dream at this point. Retaining the current crew is not going to get them anywhere, and clogs the pipeline for the players turning pro.
It's time to sell in St. Paul. If that angers you, make a note to never, ever apply for an NHL GM job.
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I'm in the don't buy camp (just like last year)
I don’t necessarily think there is a lot to “fire sell,” either. Or that MUST be sold. At least without getting a good enough return for them.
IMHO, there are only 2 players that can be moved for decent return and 1 that should be moved (if he hasn’t been already) for whatever Fletch can get. Respectively, those players are Brodziak and Harding then Zids for those keeping score at home. Anything else Fletch can sell to help the future is more power to him.
Alternatively, doing nothing is probably just fine in this market. I trust Fletch is trying—Russo tells us so—and by doing nothing, I think it is safe to assume the return wasn’t good enough. If other GM’s don’t want to play ball, that’s on them and good on Fletch for not selling for selling’s sake. Doing nothing means we keep the prospect pool in tact and that is a good enough place to start.
Being from Minnesota, it would be rude to put something clever here.
I'm in the Sell for Players with contracts beyond this year camp
From what I hear about the team, they seem to barely say a word in practice. Seems like we need some new blood to come in and boost the team.
Of course, all that could be for not and we can just play this season out and hope to start over next year.
But as someone that may want to come to some games this year, it’d be nice to at least look like we are trying to get back into it this year.
The Kings of .500 And Under
Any UFAs should be traded.
The only UFA that has any shot of being resigned is Brodziak, none of the others will be back. They should be traded for whatever can be had, I don’t really care what level of pick it is, it is better than letting UFAs walk for nothing. As for Brodziak, they need to either trade him or resign him, they cannot afford to let him walk for nothing. He could net a nice return in a trade or be a fixture on the third line for years to come. Either way, I’m on board, just don’t lose him for nothing.
Sell Zids, Harding, Zanon/Lundin. I would keep one of either Zanon or Lundin, just for extra body. If you can package them into something that can help long term, you do it. I still really want them to resign Brodziak. But if you can’t come to an agreement then he NEEDS to be sold. But like I said I would prefer they extend him.
Did the Nash short list come out? I’m going to try and look it up. Though I’m sure we are not on it…
Nash
Nash, with his NMC, has the freedom to pick which team he would/would not like to be traded to. Word on the street is that the Rangers and the Flyers are interested in him, although I don’t see the Rangers parting with anyone right now. They’ve got some serious mojo going on. Why mess with it? My question: what could possibly motivate Nash to come to Minnesota, of all places?
Trust me, I’d love to see the big winger in a Wild jersey, but realistically, it’s hard to see that as a possibility. The Wild haven’t made the playoffs in 3 years. Make it 4, this year. The way this team is going right now, it would take a festivus miracle for them to turn the ship around and go on a tear (a la Anaheim). Why would Nash want to go from a team that’s the worst team in the league (stats-wise) to a team that, since Dec 13, has been the worst team in the league (according to the analysis on tv last night)?
Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!
by Mark It Zero! on Feb 15, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
well hopefully the Wild have some incriminating photos of him
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by Chris Winner on Feb 15, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
SELL, SELL, SELL
Even if they make the playoffs, they have a snow ball’s chance in hell of being a true contender.
I don’t think Nash or Bobby Ryan will hit the market. If they did, the Wild would have to consider offers, but I don’t think it’s likely. Besides, does anyone think this team is one player away from a deep run in the playoffs? Even if they miraculously sneak into the 8th spot, Let’s be realistic, and build an actual contender in 2-3 years.
I think the Wild should re-sign Brodziak – he’s a rock solid 3rd line center that could probably be had for $2.5 million/year, and try to trade Cullen if possible. Extend Stoner, and offer up all of the other pending UFAs: Zanon, Lundin and Harding. They should also offer up Zidlicky (Blackhawks, are you interested?), and try to shop Schultz, though god knows why anyone would be interested in him.
Hoard the picks/prospects, go hard after Parise/Suter/Wideman in free agency, and we’ll have a solid core by 2014.
"90% of the game is physical. The other half is mental." - Yogi Berra
Agree 100%
SELL!!!!! Anyone thinking this season can be saved by adding a body or two needs to ease up on the kool-aid. The season is done! You can tell by the Wild’s play. They just cannot score. Well, they can, but there’s a 1-goal limit. Per game. On a good night, they could possibly get two.
Beavis & Butthead have a better chance of scoring than the Wild right now.
Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!
by Mark It Zero! on Feb 15, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think there is any scenario that Rick Nash comes to MN.
But I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Nash and pick for Schneider and Kesler at the draft.
^
A typical minne sports fan response :)
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 15, 2012 2:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Man, I just get the feeling
that the trade market this year is going to be pretty quiet. It seems that the few sellers out there are hanging tight, waiting for a team to blink and way over pay for someone. I’m sure someone will do something, and then a small flurry might take place, but I have a feeling that this market will stay pretty locked up.
I agree
Only a few months ago, there was talk about everyone on the Ducks being for sale. Fast forward to February, and they’re one of the hottest teams in the league. You don’t hear any trade talks involving them now.
Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!
by Mark It Zero! on Feb 16, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions

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