Wilderness Walk for 2-21-2012

by BReynolds on Feb 21, 2012 8:09 AM CST in Wilderness Walks

With the lack of content for the Walk today, it was almost a no go. We discussed it, and thought we would put up the few links we have, since it gives us a chance to talk a bit about the deadline with all of you.

For you, we will have a piece on what the Wild can sell and what selling might be worth. That's a bit later. For now, our discussion centers around your sources for news leading up to and on deadline day. Many of you are new around here, and may be new to the online hockey world, so we thought we would give you a list of places to NOT trust for your deadline information

Hockey Buzz - everything on that site is garbage. There may be a writer or two that is worth a read, but it flat out isn't worth the trouble. Nothing rumor based is true. Nothing. At. All. The site is junk, and if you pay to use it, you've completely lost your mind.
HF Boards - There are good people over there, and the discussions about the game can be a good time. Anything trade related is going to be absurd. If anyone says they have information that is not being reported... no they don't.
Twitter - This one is tricky. All of the real sources for info will put it on Twitter first. The problem is when a guy who actually knows something is faked and people who should know better fall prey to a fake account. Make sure you check the source by clicking on the user name. The people in the know will have tens of thousands of followers, not 17. Be wary, folks.

Do you have a trusted source? Who is it? Any others the Wilderness should know to avoid?

Wild News

The Wild Reward Brodizak For Hard Work - Sorry Tom.

On second thought…about Kyle Brodziak | Edmonton Journal
- No matter how arrogant the Oilers crowd may be... their team blew it here, and you can all rub that in their collective face if you would like.

Ending drought is relief, but Cullen wants more | StarTribune.com - Good to know one win isn't enough.

Tending the Fields

The Third Intermission: Rise of the Wolves continues - Yuk.

Off the Trail

Eight Predictions for the 2012 NHL Trade Deadline | The Hockey Writers - I agree with almost all of this.

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Trusted Source

Follow these two guys named Bryan Reynolds (ReynoldsSBN) and Nathan Eide (nathaneide). Kind of losers, but they tend to have good hockey information… There is also this guy named Micheal Russo…

But in all seriousness, I tend not to follow too much Wild related, unless Russo says something about it.

by eamon17 on Feb 21, 2012 9:53 AM CST reply actions

What’s with the “typewriter” looking box? Didn’t do that on purpose…

by eamon17 on Feb 21, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions

It's from having two @ symbols

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by NorthernStar on Feb 21, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions

Ahh. Did not know that. Learn something new everyday.

by eamon17 on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions

I had one very reliable source, but I don’t talk to him anymore and he won’t return my calls. In all seriousness, I get my news from the Wilderness or Russo. The only places I feel confident that the information is valid.

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by Chris Winner on Feb 21, 2012 10:09 AM CST reply actions

Worth noting that we also got Darcy Kuemper in the Broziak deal.

Big win there.

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by GerDevine on Feb 21, 2012 10:11 AM CST reply actions

yeah I just saw that, that just cements the fact that Chuck pantsed the Oilers. Not to mention the Oilers signed Barker this past off season. That trade easily negates the Leddy trade that some folks are still crying about and won’t let go.

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by Chris Winner on Feb 21, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions

I still cry

But its more of a gentle weep.

Don't know what I'm fighting for, but I know what I'm fighting against

by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 21, 2012 5:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I'm getting a little nervous

That our kaptain’s injury might be a bit more serious than day to day.

Any news on this?

by loyle on Feb 21, 2012 10:18 AM CST reply actions

Koivu's injury

From Russo:

Regarding the mystery with his injury, the Wild is trying to protect him because he is going to try to come back very soon and play with it. There’s nothing else going on.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 21, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions

I bet his shoulder is jacked

Don't know what I'm fighting for, but I know what I'm fighting against

by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 21, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Good odds.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 22, 2012 8:06 AM CST up reply actions

i'm probably in the minority here

I like Russo, but does anyone else think he’s been a little thin skinned this year? Didn’t like the way he went after Zanon after he was basically responsible for giving up the(can’t remember if it was the)tying or losing goal. The guy’s having probably his worst year and he’s realizing that his body just can’t do what it used to, he’s po’d, and down after that and he gets ripped on the radio for not wanting to interview. I’m sure there may be something to the Mikko only wanting certain linemates talk, but if you’re going to bring it up please give us an idea of how you know these things. There’s already enough crazy people on the Strib that believe Koivu should be scoring 40 goals a year to justify his contract. This just adds fule to their fire imo. btw, those same people somehow have an issue with the Brodziak signing now for the same reason.

by plainoldbob on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM CST reply actions

They are professional Athletes

and get paid well to do so. Part of that job description is being available to the media, and acccountable. Russo is right to call the players out, that only want to talk when things are going good.

by ThatGuy22 on Feb 21, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions

Russo is as solid as they get for team coverage.

He is completely unbiased, tells them they stink when they do and says their awesome when they are. I don’t know if there is a more honest writer out there but I admit, I don’t follow many other teams as close.

Russo, HW and Puck Daddy are the only things in my opinion to folow this time of year. A lot of the TSN reports seem to be false most times as well. And Scott Cullen hates the Wild, j/k.

by cgp711 on Feb 21, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions

i like Russo also and have been reading him for years

Yes they are pro athletes and get paid to do interviews, but when one guy basically just loses a game and doesn’t want to do an interview immediately afterwards I think it’s un professional to rip him on radio just for that. There are 20 other guys to go to.

by plainoldbob on Feb 21, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions

OK, normally I wouldn’t go on a rant like this, but this needs to be said.

Russo’s job is to report what is happening with the team. When a guy refuses to talk, except when things are going well, Russo needs to report that. Zanon is a baby when it comes to media. He only wants the media to report warm and fuzzies. Not the job of the media. They have a PR team. You want the good and only the good, go to them.

Where did this idea of Mikko controlling who talks and who doesn’t come from? At the end of the game, we ask the PR guys for the guys we want to talk to, and they go ask the players to talk to us. Mikko has no say in it.

I don’t understand the second part of that sentence. If he knows what? If you want to know how he knows something, the answer is… he asked. That’s how he knows. Same way we all know what we know. He wanted the info and went and got it. If you are doubting the veracity of the info, you’re nuts. Russo would never report something he didn’t have on lock down.

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by BReynolds on Feb 21, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Kudos, Bryan

by WildEast on Feb 21, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions

Where did this idea of Mikko controlling who talks and who doesn’t come from?

Bryan, I think you may have misread plainoldbob’s quote of “I’m sure there may be something to the Mikko only wanting certain linemates talk”. I think he was referring to the notion that Koivu only wants certain players (Mietinnen) on his line. I had to read that line twice as well. When I read that at first, that’s what I thought too … damn, the Kaptain now decides who talks to the press as well?!

I’m an avid Russo fan. I do believe what he reports to be true and accurate. He reports what he sees, every time throwing in his opinions (of the team and the players) as well. That’s why I enjoy reading his posts and blogs. It’s just plain honest. If your only source of Wild info was the tv broadcast of Greenlay and Terhaar, you’d think there was not a whole lot wrong with this team. If the team play likes shit (which they have, in recent memory), Russo calls ’em out on it.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 22, 2012 8:23 AM CST up reply actions

oops responded to the wrong place again

I’m not on here just to rip Russo. I’ve been reading the guy since he got here, and if I didn’t like him I would have looked for a place like this a long time ago. Thanks to Mark It Zero for understanding what I wrote. Sorry if it was confusing, but my complete response is below if interested.

by plainoldbob on Feb 22, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions

Eklund is an idoit E5

by cgp711 on Feb 21, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions

Don't know if anybody put this up yet here but check this out

http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2012/2/20/2810891/how-to-make-yourself-an-nhl-twitter-insider-the-e-k-l-u-n-d-system

Its from over at On The Forecheck. Hilarious.

by eamon17 on Feb 21, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions

LOVED THAT POST!!

Even more so for the D.E.N.N.I.S. system reference.

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by JDesthubert on Feb 21, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions

Right

One of the best Sunny in Philly episodes. I think my favorite one was the Jersey Shore episode. RUM HAM!

by eamon17 on Feb 21, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions

My personal fav is

“Dee Reynolds: Shaping America’s Youth” … the one where they make Lethal Weapon 5. Mac as ‘Blackface’. Charlie trying to be a mentor/janitor. That episode always cracks me up. That show is f’n hilarious. Sometimes I catch myself singing lines from “The Nightman Cometh”. Day man aaaaahhh-aaaahhh-aaaahhh!

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 21, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions

Honestly, is there a better show on TV right now?

Don’t get me wrong, I love Ron Swanson on Parks & Rec but Sunny is hilarious each episode.

by cgp711 on Feb 21, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions

I do like Castle, Psych, Grimm, Body of Proof (for an older lady, Dana Delany has got it goin’ on!!!! DAMN!). But yeah, for comedy, IASIP rules! Fitness encouraged, nothing sexual.

Son-of-a-bitch is dug in like an Alabama tick!

by Mark It Zero! on Feb 22, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions

i'm not sure i read you right

As far as the Mikko wanting to only play with certain linemates talk goes Russo brought that up on BTP. He said that the team cow tows to Mikko when it comes to that. I’m not calling Russo a liar, but if you’re going to say that multiple times over the last couple years then please give me a reason why you believe it to be true. If so, as much as I like Mikko, he’s not C material, because it would be more about him than the team which is the opposite of what you expect from your C. As far as Zanon goes, there is nothing in his time here that that shows me he’s a baby when it comes to the media, and what exactly would anyone have possibly expected him to say in that situation, “I screwed up, we lost, I’ll get better from here”. I don’t need to read that in the paper to know how he feels. Russo is a professional also, and that rant was unprofessional. As much as I like Russo, and I do, he’s never going to be on the pedestal that some obviously put him on. He makes mistakes like anyone else.

by plainoldbob on Feb 22, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions

The certain line mates thing is blown out of proportion. I do not remember him ever demanding specific linemates. The team will always cow tow to putting certain players with Mikko. He is the focus of the team. If they put him with less than strong line mates, why pay him what they do?

Again, if Russo said something, he has a source. I would never doubt that. Ever. I also don’t remember him saying Koivu is demanding specific line mates.

Koivu is not C material? I still don’t get how this remains a concern. You don’t see him in the room. The players all say he is a great C, as does the coach. They get to see him in the room, we don’t.

Nothing that says he is a baby with the media… except the media telling you so. I am telling you so. Russo is telling you so. What else would you like? Saying the right thing is not being good with the media. Being good with the media means standing up and answering questions no matter the result. The guy is brutal with media.

You can call Russo unprofessional, but again, you haven’t seen the man work. I have. You have zero idea what you are talking about. On a pedestal? No. But damn if I’ll stand by and let your trash a guy who doesn’t deserve it all while defending a guy who deserves his just rewards.

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Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Feb 22, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions