Minnesota Wild at the Deadline: The Marek Zidlicky Trade
Everyone done dancing in the streets? No broken windows on West 7th, I hope.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, he is gone. Marek Zidlicky, shipped out the New Jersey Devils in exchange for a host of players, picks, and prospects. As Nathan reported last night, the return on the aging, struggling, disgruntled defenseman was Kurtis Foster, Stephane Veilleux, Nick Palmieri, a 2nd round pick in 2013 2012, and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2013.
The chances of the Devils making the conference finals might not be on the side of the Wild, but that 2nd round pick looks pretty shiny. It is reportedly the 2nd round pick the Devils have courtesy of the Washington Capitals from the Jason Arnott trade. Whether or not that ends up a high pick or not could depend on if the Washington Capitals of this season return next season as well.
So... what di the Wild get here? Should fans be dancing in the street, or quietly sitting in the corner waiting for Gadot?
The Return
At first glance, Wild fans see that Foster has nearly identical point totals to Zidlicky. Notice, if you will, the non-circular number in the column labeled "G." Those are what is known in the business as "goals." You may be familiar with them from such movies as "Miracle" and "Mystery, Alaska."
What Fozzie brings to the table is well known here in Minnesota. He is a team first guy with a canon from the blue line. It isn't always on the mark, but it makes its presence known, which is something the Wild are sorely lacking right now. If nothing else, maybe he can show some of the young guys the secrets to not burying a shot into the shin pads of the nearest opponent.
This part of the trade may go down as the fan favorite. Foster is a likable guy, and was a fan mainstay in his time here.
The fiery red head returns. Veilleux is a product of the Wild organization, played a good deal of his career here, and when he finally left, his career seemed over. Yet... here he is, back in Iron Range Red, and back, most likely, on the fourth line.
Veilleux was, at one point, one of those guys that could put in a dozen while putting in the hard minutes and shutting down the top lines of the opposition. He was Eric Nystrom before Eric Nystrom was. Those days are likely gone for Veilleux, but his ability to grind out a shift and put in a solid checking game are likely still around. Good depth pick up.
We are still assessing just what type of player Palmieri is, and will have more on him specifically later today, or before the game on Sunday, but for now, we are cautiously optimistic. A big bodied, young "power forward" type player that the Wild desperately need.
From reading New Jersey fans' commentary, it sounds as though Palmieri is not exactly going to break land speed records, but he is a garbage goal guy. He will need support of good linemates, and will not be the first guy in on the forecheck, but it sounds like he is difficult to knock off the puck, and even more difficult to knock out from in front of the net.
Given a chance, Palmieri may just be someone the Wild really needed. We'll see how it all works out, but he certainly seems like one of the two pieces Fletcher really wanted in this deal.
Second Round Pick
Recent second round picks by the Wild include Jason Zucker, Brett Bulmer, Johan Larsson, and Mario Lucia. In other words, Fletcher is pretty good with the second rounders.
Third Round Pick
The only two third round picks the Wild have made in the past six years were Cal Clutterbuck and Matt Hackett. Not to shabby. Fletcher has a penchant for trading third rounders in order to move up in the second round and or as package deals. Forced to make a pick, he would do just fine for himself.
What it All Means
This is a great trade for the Wild. They get a defenseman in Foster who will bring offense from the back end, a grinding forward in Veilleux that the fans know, a prospect in Palmieri that looks (at first glance) like he may just fit right in, and a couple of picks. The first response is... wow. Fletcher made a haul.
Foster and Veilleux are pending UFAs, meaning if they don't work out, there is no harm. Their cap hits for the rest of the season are minimal, so shouldn't prohibit any further trades either. Palmieri is a pending RFA with a $801K cap hit, and a bonus of around 200K available (he won't make it). His qualifying offer will be 105% of $801K, so around $841K.
The second round pick could turn into a good prospect. The third is a long shot to ever happen. Picks are always welcome. Always. More, please.
The biggest reward out of this trade could be the dumping of the $4 million cap hit for the Wild next season. They want to go hard after UFAs in the offseason, and an extra $4 million is going to be extremely helpful in that process. If you want to put it into perspective, Zach Parise could command $7 million a year. With the new $4 million found in losing Zidlicky, that's only a new cap hit of $3 million. Same goes with a Ryan Suter type d-man.
That extra $4 million is going to come in mighty handy.
Declaring winners and losers in trades is something that rarely results in anything productive. Right now, if none of the players coming back work out, the cap relief and the 2nd round pick would have been plenty to make most Wild fans happy.
Your turn Wilderness... what are your thoughts?
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re: the caption...
That’s no Death Stare….
This after he’s scored, as well…
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarattes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 9:06 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
shed a small tear of joy last night...
I’m so glad he’s gone, and the return is actually really nice. I wonder if Chicago or another team was pressuring? It’s nice that this move will take some of the heat off Houston too.
by Baseruben09 on Feb 25, 2012 9:35 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
heard zip about the Hawks being interested in Zidlicky...
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarattes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
I thought they were considering
Kane for Zidlicky? ;)
Isnt that 2nd rounder
in THIS seasons draft? so 2012 not 2013?
It is, indeed. That changed from the report on Wild.com. Thanks for the head’s up.
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I thought the 2nd was this years too?
by Baseruben09 on Feb 25, 2012 9:42 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
From what I can tell, Jersey thinks they got the better end of the deal, ha.
I think Palmeiri will be like Latandresse, he just needs a fresh start.
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by mckay10 on Feb 25, 2012 9:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Foster's Back
I loved Foster when he was here before and hopefully his shot helps the blue line out. Hopefully Palmeiri turns out to be a solid 3rd liner and I am just extremely happy that Zids is out of this organization and we have that extra money for free agency.
by Captian Conway99 on Feb 25, 2012 9:47 AM CST reply actions
this here..
Hopefully Palmeiri turns out to be a solid 3rd liner
This is exactly where he belongs, as a big, not-very-mobile “Power” Forward. The Devils seemed to think he was a Top-6 guy which he clearly isn’t (yet anyway).. this really looks like the steal of the season and makes me think that, in Fletcher and Yeo, you guys have a really good GM/Coach set up..
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarattes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah he might be able to play a Nick Johnson-style role on the 3rd line.
Whatever happens with these new players, it’s just good to get rid of that locker room cancer and to get some new people into the mix. Getting a draft pick out of it is just a really good bonus.
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Not to burst your bubble as i’m sure you’re excited at the prospects of a 22 year old power forward and to be rid of Zidlicky but NJ never thought of Palmieri as a Top 6 guy. He landed there due to injuries last year. While there he he could barely keep his head above water and made almost no use of the fact that he was handed a position alongside two of NJs best forwards last year.
This year he basically played his way off the team. And while in the AHL, he was a total non factor. He’s not just slow and can’t really forecheck. His hands are awful and he looks lost out on the ice most of the time.
I’ve never, ever disliked a prospect on NJ as much as Palmieri. He just had no business being in the NHL which i’m sure you’ll all quickly discover that as well once the new car smell fades.
All things considered
I couldn’t be happier with the trade.
We get rid of that terrible contract
acquire a potentially high Second Round Pick
Get a young big player in Palmeri, with potential
and get Zid’s bad attitude out of the locker room
Chuck is the MAN!!!!!!!!
by Brandon Godward on Feb 25, 2012 10:09 AM CST reply actions
Thank goodness he's gone!
I’m glad Fozzie and Veilleux are coming back. They’re great guys and I love how hard they play game in and game out. I’m interested to see Palmieri.
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Palmieri skill set sounds like..
Sheppard. Hopefully he has heart and a brain which Shepherd never got from the wizard.
Seto and Palmjob (acceptable nickname?)won’t be on the same line as they both play a similar game.
#lovethetrade#loveseto#lovefletch
by Pewterschmidt on Feb 25, 2012 11:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I think that Palmieri's nickname is NaPalm.
That's Finntastic!
by niemonster3 on Feb 25, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
I approve
of this “Early Sorting Out Of Nicknames” business.. just as long as it doesn’t become “Facepalm”
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it"
by mightymike D on Feb 25, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
I was wondering
If Palmieri is similar to Sheppard or maybe Gillies as well. Big young guy that may not live up to their potential.
It really doesn’t matter since we off loaded $4 million, added a 2nd rounder, potential in Palmieri and two character guys for the locker room.
Shep had talent and no work ethic, Gillies had not much talent but tons of work ethic. Hopefully he has Sheps talent and Gillies work ethic.
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by Chris Winner on Feb 25, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Names being thrown around are Gillies, Sheppard, Latendresse… Picking the best of each and putting them together would be great.
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Great trade
Sounds like we traded Zidlicky for Zidlicky with character (Foster), a 4th line character guy (Vellieux), a young power forward (Palmieri), and 1 maybe 2 picks. Great haul for a guy who didn’t want to be here.
Well played Fletcher
I applaud your discipline in negotiating this bounty. I was really pleased to see us land two players who have expiring contracts and even more surprised to see draft picks attached to this deal.
With Foster and Vellieux I calculate about $23-25 million in cap space.
Palmieri is probably best suited for 3rd or 4th line duty.
But it wouldn’t shock me if he is given second line minutes on this team this year, we’ve got nothing there right now.
Gotta agree
The majority of the Wild right now is best suited for 3rd line duty it seems like. If he camps right in front of the crease he’ll do good. He’ll probably get a 2-way extension as well I would imagine. The more competition the better.
by J.A.Berty1330 on Feb 25, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
It's really a no-lose
for Fletcher. Is there any way that Foster can be worse than Zids has been for the Wild this year? From that standpoint Palmieri and all draft picks (and the subtraction of the $4M cap hit) are strictly house money! It’s obvious Palmieri has the size; it appears that he has potential (at 22). What’s not to like about taking a chance on him.
Without Latrendresse
the Wild don’t currently have any crease battlers on their roster. Not sure which of their prospects other than Coyle really fits the bill, either. It’s obvious that the Devils thought that Palmieri was a top-6 forward on their team at the beginning of the year. Personality clashes are quirky things; and the Devils struggled offensively at the beginning of the year, and scapegoats are human nature. I think that we should give Palmieri an opportunity to fit in to his new environs before cubby-holing him.
crease battlers
that’s what she said.
by Pewterschmidt on Feb 25, 2012 8:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It seems like
We are setting up to be able to run 4 lines comfortably in the future. Lots of potentially decent 3rd liners. May be good as throw-ins for trades, or to run a 3A/3B lines. I just hope we end up with lines 1-2-3A-3B and not 2-3A-3B-4. Really excited to see Palmieri play. We definitely need more power forwards.

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