Is Erik Christensen Part of the Long Term Plan?
The ink likely isn't even dry on whatever paperwork needs to be filed with the league to make a trade complete, and already Wild fans are all over the map. Most of the negative comments are those ticked off because Chuck Fletcher didn't trade Casey Wellman for Zach Parise, so you know the type that are upset.
Many are excited, which anytime a new player comes in is expected. Most, are somewhere in between and just want to see what the kid brings to the table. That's where you should be. To quote Brian Rolston, never too high, never too low.
The question I am getting is how Erik Christensen fits in the long term. It seems like a simple question, until you start to analyze the situation in Minnesota. Which we do. After the jump.
Where does he fit right now?
Right now, Christensen looks to be slotted in on the third line. With Mikko Koivu hurt, Matt Cullen and Kyle Brodziak are outside their normal roles, and playing up a line. This also moves Darroll Powe into a third line role, something he capable of, but was not hired to do. With Jed Ortmeyer up to center the fourth line, and Powe's ability to shift to wing rather easily, Christensen fits well in that position.
What happens when Koivu returns?
This is where is gets tricky. Obviously, Koivu centers the top line, Cullen the second, and Brodziak the third. That only leaves the fourth line to work with. From what we can gather from the Rangers fan base, Christensen is not a grinder. He needs top six talent to work with, just like our feelings were with Wellman. There will be some competition to be had, to be sure, for TOI, but with Guillaume Latendresse and Pierre-Marc Boucahrd out, and not coming back anytime soon, my bet is Christensen or Cullen slide to wing and both play second line minutes.
This is an educated guess, and my educated guesses almost always end up wrong. So take that with a grain of salt. Or the whole shaker. Up to you.
Where does he fit next year?
This is where it gets messy. If Christesen is a second line player, there is a log jam with everyone healthy. Certainly it adds some interest to the Kyle Brodziak negotiations, which Russo reported will be firing up shortly. Christensen is also a pending UFA, but has a lower price tag than Brodziak. All of this could be positioning, but Fletcher is certainly not playing games. You don't trade to create a better negotiating position with a third line center.
Koivu is here long term. Cullen is singed through next year. Powe is here through 2014. The Wild also have prospects coming through the system. Mikael Granlund is a center, with strong play at the wing as well. Charlie Coyle is a center. Zack Phillips, a center. Each of these players could make strong cases top be here next year. Christensen being in the fold increases that competition to be sure.
What does this say about the other centers in the organization already?
To be blunt? They aren't good enough. Cody Almond has missed the mark a couple times. Ortmeyer is a great fill in, but isn't meant for sustained NHL time. Chad Rau is still developing, and played well, but doesn't look to be the solution. David McIntyre performed well, but is likely the next Ortmeyer. Joel Broda is there, but he is an after thought at this point. They also have several players listed as centers already moving to wing to get them time. Guys like Carson McMillan and Jeff Taffe aren't going to disrupt the succession plan at pivot.
Plenty of centers in the system, and they traded one to bring another in. That has to send a message to the rest of the depth chart.
OK, OK... long term. Is he here to stay or not?
Depends on your definition of long term. I can't see Chuck Fletcher trading Casey Wellman for a rental, no. I don't think Christensen is here for the super long term, but I can see him sticking around for a two year deal, absolutely. Seems to be a guy being brought in to jump start a team that needs a jump start, to add some talent on the shootout, and possibly find a home with a team that needs top six talent. Is that top six talent Christensen? Rangers fans say no, and they've watched him much more than I have. I'll leave it up to him to prove it to the team.
Will he be here next season? You can bet he has been told that is a possibility, and he can earn that chance. If he performs, he'll be back. If he doesn't, not a chance. That hunger enough will be enough to show us if he deserves to be here or not.
I cannot see him around after two years, unless something happens with the prospects that is unforeseen. Stranger things have happened, to be sure. Don't write him off, but don't sign him to that seven year max deal in your fantasy leagues, either. After all, you can never have too many centers.
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You'd have to think that if he can't stick in Minnesota
He won’t be an NHL player anymore
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Don't discount him that quickly!
There’s always Columbus.
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I'd like them to try
Christensen-Brodziak-Johnson when all are healthy.
You might have a nice mix of grit and skill there. MIGHT is the key word.
Like the Havlat effect...
A very skilled players that works better with grinders.
Seems to me that once Koivu is healthy
Christensen will move to Koivu or Cullen’s LW. He has great hands and can set up his linemates fairly well from what I’ve seen/heard. He likely would fit better on Cullen’s line. A line of Christensen-Cullen-Seto would have good speed and Christensen and Cullen have good hands. Also, it’d be good to have someone take draws for Cullen on the 80% of faceoffs or so that he gets booted.
I’d like them to go to:
Heatley-Koivu-Clutter
Christensen-Cullen-Seto
Powe-Brodziak-Johnson
Kassian-Peters-McMillan
If Brodziak and Christensen are both staying
Probably.
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So right now we're at:
Heater-Koivu-Granlund
Christensen-Cullen-Seto
Clutter-Brodziak-Johnson
?-Powe-?
For his sake
I hope he is healthy by next year. Another year and a half absence would be the end of Butch’s career.
by J.A.Berty1330 on Feb 3, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Here's my take on the trade (take it for what you will)
We basically traded Casey Wellman, a guy who, it was becoming more and more obvious, wasn’t gonna stick in this organization, for a Wellman-esque player AND a 7th round pick in 2013.
Worst case scenario: he comes in, plays well for a few games, and returns to being the ‘invisible man’. His contract is up at the end of the year and he walks in FA.
Best case scenario: a change of scenery, along with getting him out of the press box/ 4th line is exactly what his confidence needs ( a la Lats) and he comes in and solidifies a spot on the top 6 for the Wild going forward.
The way I see it, this is a very low risk move. He plays well and forces some more competition for next year and alleviates some of the offensive pressure that the absence of Lats and Butch has put on this team. If not, he walks in FA, making room for the young guys to come up and play with the big club next year.
I DO think that Fletcher would trade Wellman for a rental
Its not like Wellman is a Rundblad or Turris. From wht I’ve heard, Christensen isn’t skilled or gritty enough to be more than a role player.
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by Georgie Fruit on Feb 3, 2012 4:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
EC has plenty of skill. When he’s running good, he can win games for you. He just has incredible self-confidence issues (which he has admitted himself, but I’ll be darned if I can find the interview), so when he’s bad, he goes in the tank in a hurry.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 3, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Confidence issues
From what I’ve seen, he’s pulled press box/4th line duty recently. Hopefully him knowing that someone is willing to pluck him off the bottom line and put him up higher will be good for his confidence. On this team, he certainly has top 6 talent, so he should be penciled in for a top 6 spot soon enough. He already has familiarity with both the coach, the GM, and the system (Yeo says it’s very similar to the one run in Pittsburgh). Hopefully he can put it together here. The same issue plagued Latendresse in Montreal and he has played well here in MN (when he’s healthy).
by J.A.Berty1330 on Feb 3, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t think he would trade Wellman for a rental in a season like this. There is zero reason to do so. Unless he really thinks they are contenders, and Christensen was the missing piece…
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I think he would
It’s obvious Wellman wasn’t gonna stick with this franchise. His value wasn’t in his ability, but more in what return he could bring the Wild. Christensen does help make up for some of the offensive skill we’ve lost with Butch and Lats out of the line up. Christensen is a UFA after this year; he can walk after the season if he doesn’t turn out. It’s certainly a low-risk, medium-high reward trade.
by J.A.Berty1330 on Feb 4, 2012 2:32 AM CST up reply actions
I’m not as convinced as you are. There is no reason to rent a player unless you have cause to think you are going to make a run. Fletcher has never shown himself to be a rent-a-player type guy. In fact, everything he has said in the past month has been to say that unless a trade makes sense long term, he wasn’t going to do it.
If you are the Hawks and you need a third line guy with some offensive skill for the Cup run, I get trading a guy like Wellman. If you are the Wild, barely clinging to the playoffs, I’m not sure you make a move with shortsighted aspirations.
Also, the conditional 7th rounder tells me Fletcher was fairly convinced he could sign Christensen.
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Reading Russo's notebook today
It sounds like if Fletcher could have kept Wellman he would, but the Rangers insisted that he be the part from the Wild in the deal.
Agree to disagree sir
Out top 6 is decimated right now. Wellman just wasn’t cutting it and with all the prospects turning pro next year, he effectively lost his chance at a roster spot AND as our main offensive injury call up. He was destined for AHL duty the rest of his time with the Wild.
We pick up a guy who can score, especially on the PP and SO, which we desperately need. His presence and offensive skill set takes some of the pressure off of Brodziak/Johnson/Powe to score and lets them return to what they’re best at. We basically exchanged two similar players AND got a 7th round pick if EC doesn’t stick.
I’m not saying he is a rental, but if he doesn’t turn out, it’s not like we’ve lost a whole lot, and could possibly gain some if the pick turns into a solid NHL player.
by J.A.Berty1330 on Feb 4, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Christensen has yet to prove any of this.
And is he doesn’t stick around, the Wild traded a guy with speed and a wicked shot who wasn’t quite making it for a pick that 99.9999% of the time results in a drafting a player who grew up down the road from a guy who knew Chuck Fletcher in high school.
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I like this trade....
brings in a good center man who can play wing if everyone gets healthy.
lines I would use-
Heater Koivu Johnson/Clutter
EC- Cullen- Seto-
Powe – Brodz- Clutter / Johnson
Kassian- Peters- Mac
With the status of Gui and Butch unknown, these lines are my best bet.
biggest wast with talent
long time ranger fan good luck guys biggest piece of garbage mr invisible is correct we would of taken a bag of pucks for him total wast hes had chance after chance .you won t even know his on the ice.no emotions dosent care
Guys, go ahead and diss the player we got
But jeez… Christensen looked like he only plays once and a while to get a paycheck. No heart and is afraid to get checked. However, he is good at shootouts which is the only thing he doesn’t suck in
I really don't get the fuss
We gave up Wellman for a player like Wellman but with NHL experience + conditional 7th round pick.
We don’t lose anything and possible win something
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I don't think there has been all that much fuss..
Outside the Startribune Comment section. The two articles are likely just a result of the Wild not playing tonight, thus a fairly slow news day for the Wild. Not really much else going on. Seems most people think its a low risk, medium reward trade. At his worst he is going to be as good as Wellman (atleast for this season), and Wellman is about to get crowded out.
Off day + tons of questions about his long term plan. The people ask, we answer.
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Not a fan of this trade
Sounds like this guy has no work ethic. Wellman was at least good for the aeros. What did we get? A guy who’s a fourth line CENTER. Would have taken a garbage pick over this guy. Talking 6th round action. This was a weird fuddy duddy move. Hope Ill eat crow on this but probably not.
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 4, 2012 7:40 AM CST via mobile reply actions
oh and the ranger fans sound like we did when
We unload a piece of shit on someone like cam barker and belanger. Not a good sign folks. They watch him, we don’t.
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 4, 2012 7:43 AM CST via mobile reply actions
They also said
He has all the skill in the world and just tends to disappear. I don’t have a problem with the trade, and Yeo and Fletcher are both familier with him. They likely know what they are getting.
erik christensen points through 20. 5
Chuck kobasew points through 42. 11
Sweet pick up!
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 4, 2012 8:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Chuck Kobasew has more ice time
Plus, Christensen is good on faceoffs and shootouts. He’s certainly better than Kobasew.
While it’s true that the Rangers fans weren’t a fan of Christensen, it sounds to me like they were expecting too much. He was a waiver pick-up meant for 4th line duty, but they made him out to be a supposed top 6 player. Barker was a former 40 point defenseman, so of course we expected better than the shit he gave the Wild.
I don’t think I need to remind you that the Wild need all the offensive help they can get right now and this is a guy with actual NHL experience. Plus, think of the 5 points the Wild lost in the shootout. Christensen should be able to stop the bleeding in that area, which is important in tight, late playoff races.
By the way, you say you would’ve taken a garbage pick, well that’s the conditional 7th pick, so you must be happy. Not really sure why you’re calling this a fuddy duddy move, Wellman was done here.
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I cant be swayed
If this guy gets a goal on our fourth line this year I will run across forest lake in a cup. What is a conditional 7th round pick? What are the conditions? What was the point of this move I guess is what I’m getting at. Just a way to get rid of Wellman? We are going to have some young guys coming in to play in houston for a while. Don’t you think it would have been nice to have to have someone down there with wellmans skill set to have them play with?
Although our shootouts have sucked, I’ll put like 25% alone on backstrom. He’s terrible at them. Koivu and bouchard are out but does that warrent picking up a “shootout specialist?” Bahahahaha. Shootouts? How many have we even been in? Five?
Zidlicky has had 40 point seasons too. I wasn’t on this blog when they made the leddy johansson, barker trade, but I wasn’t stoked. I’m not a fan of offensive dmen to begin with but that’s just my opinion.
I guess in all my rambling what does bringing in a fourth line/press box warmer do to ignite the wilds offense? I sure hope his four minutes of ice time are going to pan out with kassian and whoever else will be out there.
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 4, 2012 11:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Conditional 7th Round Pick
If I’m not mistaken, if the Wild decide they wanna sign EC to a contract at the end of the season, they don’t get that pick. If they decide to let him walk at the end of this season, they get the pick. Thus, ‘conditional’ based on whether they offer him a contract or not.
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by Mark It Zero! on Feb 4, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
thank you hehehe
What a deal.
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 4, 2012 11:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Rinne, Kim Johnsson
Just a few very late picks in their draft years. I’m not saying that 7th pick will magically turn into such a player, but Wellman wasn’t either, so hey, why not? Besides, with all the prospects coming up to the pros next year, Wellman was going to become an afterthought anyway.
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Not a popular opinion here
but I miss Johnsson, he’s exactly what we need on the blue line right now.
Yeah I didn't really like Johnsson
Until he left. The difference was visible. The Wild had a harder time breaking out of their own zone and well, Barker was…Barker.
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Wasn't Huala(sp?)
A 7th round pick people are mostly pretty high on him, maybe not zetterberg high, but he is seen as a top six guy. There is good value to be had late in the draft.
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by the Real Thor on Feb 4, 2012 2:55 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
You are correct
Haula was a 7th-round pick, but I don’t think he is actually seen as a top-6 forward. His game, thus far, is very incomplete.
My guess would be that he ends up like Wellman or Fontaine in the fact that he’ll have a good college career, but will lack any particular flash to make it in the NHL.
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Thanks for the clarification
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We've been in 10 shootouts
Lost 5. And sadly, while Christensen is a 4thline/press box warmer on most teams, on the Wild, he’s 3rd line material, possibly even 2nd line with the injuries. A change of scenery can do wonders for a guy, especially if he’s given a chance to succeed. Look at Latendresse
Not only that, but Christensen can help IMMEDIATELY, he’s not a project or anything. He’s good on shootouts, faceoffs and powerplays, 3 very important aspects of the game, 2 of which the Wild are bad at especially in the absence of Koivu, Bouchard and Latendresse, like it or not.
I’m a gambling man, so I say find yourself a good cup.
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Hey im a team player i want him to do good.
Ill fanpost some pics if he scores lol
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 4, 2012 11:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
this isnt my first rodeo
I already have a cup ;)
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by PUTTINxONxTHExFOIL on Feb 4, 2012 11:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You never know
Even one shootout goal could be the difference between missing and making the playoffs, and it’s not like Fletch gave up anything of importance. Wellman wasn’t going to make it.
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I still think it's a good trade
Wellman really had no future in the Wild organization. One, the new prospects coming in next year were always gonna take precedence over him. Two, for the time he was here, he showed flashes of brilliance, but not enough for a regular spot. He just wasn’t a good fit here (kicked ass down in Houston though!). If the new guy doesn’t pan out, bummer. But atleast we got a pick out of the deal. If he does, then kudos to CF for making something happen. Just my 2 cents.
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by Mark It Zero! on Feb 4, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
You never know if any pick from the draft is going to pan out.
By getting an actual NHL player you have a proven commodity. This is a low risk/medium reward. He’ll chip in some points and score a coupel SO goals. He has a history with Fletch and had his best season with Fletch when he had top six minutes. When Koivu comes back, my bet is he finds a home on the second line with Cullen and chips in. Yes he sounds lazy, etc., but he may just need the proper motivation and a GM and coach who believe in him and already know what he can provide. Low risk/medium reward people. As for Wellman, like Bryan said before, he’s missing that X factor that NHL players need. Hopefully he finds it with the Rangers.

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