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Wilderness Walk for 2-5-2012: You Aren't Paying Attention Anyway Edition

The Minnesota Wild's new tactic for the shootout yields the same result, at a much lower price.

Happy Superbowl Sunday, all. Since none of you will be around for anything, Hockey Wilderness will be radio silent today, barring any news. Enjoy the game. Or the commercials. I will be enjoying a nice steak and writing for school. Yep, I'm living the good life. Friday night at 11PM, I was doing my taxes. During the Superbowl, I'll be doing schoolwork.

Living the dream.

Oh, and can we please kill the idea that Jeff Carter is a good trade for the Wild to make? Please? Eleven years left on his contract, under performing, locker room issue... why would the Wild want that? Why? Let it go, folks. ELEVEN YEARS?!? No.

So, enjoy the day. Be safe.

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Just pay me. I can make up better than that.

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I'm a Ravens fan, so I won't be watching the Superbowl.

I normally watch as a neutral, but the two teams in this year’s game are just so unlikeable.

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by GerDevine on Feb 5, 2012 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed

I absolutely hate the Patriots and Brady. But I can’t stand the idea of Eli Manning winning another Superbowl and becoming better than Peyton. That’s just wrong

Koivu, Granlund 2012

by Wild_4_life on Feb 5, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Basically..

There couldn’t have been a less-interesting match-up for this year’s Superbowl. 49ers against Ravens would’ve been great.

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by GerDevine on Feb 5, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

That’s who I was pulling for, too

Koivu, Granlund 2012

by Wild_4_life on Feb 5, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, I don’t like the Pats or Giants, but Ravens-49’ers would have been really boring

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by Chris Winner on Feb 5, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

By boring..

I take it you mean defensive?

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by GerDevine on Feb 6, 2012 3:22 AM CST up reply actions  

well a combination of good defense and lackluster offense

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by Chris Winner on Feb 6, 2012 7:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't like football

so I will be spending the day doing all the homework I once again failed to do on Saturday and put off until the last minute. Instead of watching the Super Bowl I’ll be drafting contracts and exculpatory clauses, which frankly still sounds more exciting than a football game.

by FinnPryde on Feb 5, 2012 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

This!

x1000. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks trading for Carter would be the worst idea ever.

by FinnPryde on Feb 5, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I personally

dont think trading for carter would be bad, it all depends upon what you would move to get him. Get him on a team where he is not #1 for everything, maybe he would benefit. Look at the situation in Philly, he was a piece of a much larger picture. in Columbus, he, aside from Nash, IS the show. if he were on the MN roster, could you imagine the line of Heater- Koivu- Carter? that is almost as good as Heater- Koivu- Parise. Columbus has had the same issues as the Wild in the past, dealt away too many good prospects and picks for aging vets. Give em 5 years and they might have restocked the cupboards, maybe.

by wild32384 on Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Again this!

I really don’t see team first guys, who are leaders, great in the room, and who have 100% bought in like Heater and Koivu meshing well on a line with someone like Carter. I don’t care how good a player he might be. Plus, this team is all about the future. I don’t see how they could possibly plan to hang onto any of the top prospects long term or make a play for someone like Parise in free agency if they get saddled with Carter’s contract for over a decade. I mean we’ve only got Koivu locked in for another 6 after this season, do we really want someone like Carter for 11. “Gross” pretty much sums up my feelings.

by FinnPryde on Feb 5, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

And then what do you do with him, his pis poor attitude, and his 11 year deal when Granlund, Phillips, Coyle, Zucker, etc come on up?

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by BReynolds on Feb 5, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

This

Plus, if Nash and Carter don’t work together, why would Heater-Carter or Koivu-Carter work?

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by JSLandry on Feb 5, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

because nash is not a playmaker, he is a scorer. Both Heater and Koivu are more playmaker than Nash has ever been.

by wild32384 on Feb 5, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Not every sniper/playmaker combos work, you know.

Heater may be more playmaker than Nash, but he’s also more sniper than playmaker.

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by JSLandry on Feb 5, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yes,

because Heater, Seto and Cullen are going to be here for 11 years too right? Carter would be 1 player. plus there is no guarantee that any of the players you named, do anything with their professional careers.

Like I said, it all comes down to what it would cost.

by wild32384 on Feb 5, 2012 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Just like there is no guarantee Carter finds his game

Nor would he want to play in Minnesota. Turns out he’s a bit of a baby in that regard.

Fact of the matter is: He’s expensive, he’s a long contract, we’ll need the money to sign the young guns, who will make up the core of the team.

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by JSLandry on Feb 5, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

If the guy has an 11 year deal, you better make damn sure he wants to compete every night and play for Minnesota. Which I don’t think he does. He is a floater and not a good idea for this team. Mad skill yes, but use the money elsewhere…

by Kingpin45 on Feb 5, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Cost

The Jackets paid Jakub Vorachek, a top ten pick, and a third round pick for Carter. I’m guessing the price has not gone down.

So, you’re looking at Brodziak or Cullen, along with a top ten pick and a third rounder. If those came from this year’s draft, the Wild would not pick until the fourth round. For team still trying to build it’s base of young talent, and the quotes that have come from Fletcher, this is a nonstarter.

As for the prospects not making anything of their careers, you are right. However, that is part of building a team. More picks, not trading them away for a locker room cancer with a terrible contract. You have to trust your scouts and your drafting ability and not get sucked into making a deal for a guy like Carter just because he may be available.

As for Heatley and Setoguchi not being here for 11 years… Heatley will not be, you’re right. Setoguchi could very well be. He is young enough.

Heatley is not a playmaker. Heatley is a sniper. He is the goal scorer, the finisher. He is Rick Nash in this equation.

I repsect your right to believe Carter might be a good fit. History says otherwise. You would have your hands a Martin Havlat type attitude, but now he is here for 11 years, and you can’t get rid of him.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Swarm Beat Writer:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Feb 6, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Not only that

But shouldn’t the fact that the Blue Jackets, who are in trouble enough as it is, are trying to get rid of this guy 7 months after they acquired him? Shouldn’t that be telling enough for everyone? If Carter’s so great, they he shouldn’t be the type of guy a team is desperate to get rid of, no matter how bad the management team in Columbus may be.

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by JSLandry on Feb 6, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

*after they acquired them be telling enough for everyone

Horrible sentence making

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by JSLandry on Feb 6, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly. I mean, if they want to get better, and this guy is so good, keep him around. Him, Nash, a near sure bet at the top overall pick… no reason to offload him.

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Swarm Beat Writer:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Feb 6, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Carter has basically been damaged goods since the Flyers traded him

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by Chris Winner on Feb 5, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Bigger Question...

If Parise does come here, what number does he wear, since 9 is taken?

by nemo1107 on Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares

at this point about what # Parise might wear. we have bigger issues than that.

by wild32384 on Feb 5, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He'd wear 11 like his dad

That is what he wore at UND as well and it wasn’t available when he went to NJ.

by cgp711 on Feb 5, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Also linked this on the Walk yesterday. ;-)

Editor:Hockey Wilderness Swarm Beat Writer:In Lax We Trust Now with more Twitterness: ReynoldsSBN

Master of unsustainable passive regression.

by BReynolds on Feb 5, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Scandella?

Does anyone know how Scandella is doing down in Houston? I haven’t heard a thing about him since he left the big club. It make me a little nervous…

by eamon17 on Feb 5, 2012 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

He has played in 6 games since moving down

and he has a goal and an assist, with a +1 rating.

But for the finer points on how well he’s looked I would have to defer to Ms. Conduct.

by nemo1107 on Feb 5, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what I thought might be the case

I went and read the gamer from the aeros and it doesnt even mention his name. So him being hurt would make sense. Could really use beginning of the season Pizza back up here instead of Zids.

by eamon17 on Feb 5, 2012 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

My inside source :) told me he was playing well and then got hurt blocking a shot with his foot

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by Chris Winner on Feb 5, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't someone tell him

we have Zanon for that? That was not the part of the game he needed to work on. Hopefully its not too long before he’s back.

by eamon17 on Feb 5, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

perhaps they should clone Zanon so there clone can block shots in Houston

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by Chris Winner on Feb 6, 2012 7:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like Yeo might keep the current Heater line together

I think I gotta agree, they have been playing incredibly well since the ASG. No sense messing with a good thing. Also, that would give Koivu a chance to play with Seto, a player originally brought in to play on Koivu’s wing.

Christensen-Koivu-Seto
Heatley-Brodziak-Johnson
Powe-Cullen-Clutterbuck
???

Thoughts?

by J.A.Berty1330 on Feb 5, 2012 11:21 PM CST reply actions  

Good, I hope so!

I liked that line together, they did very well. Kinda sucks to be paying that much for a 2nd line winger, but meh, whatever works.

I would put Clutter on the top line with Koivu and Seto, though. If what I read about Christensen is right, he should play well and get a goal or two with Cullen as his center.

by Rhomy777 on Feb 6, 2012 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Definitely this,

Clutter has a history of chemistry with Koivu and I agree that Christensen might benefit from Cullen. But who knows.

by iLoveHockey on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

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